Too hot for AX! See the video THEY don't want to show you!

[anneke]

I believe what each convention allows is up to that convention. Yaoi-con allows R and X rated material into their contest because they know their entire audience is over 18.

Anime Expo is a convention for the more general population, and I believe that consists of alot of younger (age 13) viewers. As such they should be careful in what they choose.

For Ani-Magic one of the determinations we had was that 'Barbie-doll' type nudity was okay.

I also believe not only the type of sexual situation but the length of time it is on the screen affects this as well. The penis scene in the Excell video, was so fast that I nearly missed it, as compaired to the scene in Ermac's video which lasts for a large part of it.

I didn't submit my 'adult' video to Anime Expo, because I knew it wouldn't have passed their guidelines. Even if it does, personally I didn't want it to be seen by 10 year olds with their parents.

I learned my 'adult' video will be shown at Shoujo-con, and I was worried about it being DQ because of it's content. They have let me know they will be giving it a verbal warning before it's shown. This makes me happy, as it gives the parents time to take their 10 year olds out of the room.

Faces of Death is another example I'll use. Videos make it to the finals of contests, all the time. Even using the same scenes he has used. However it's the sheer amount and length of time the carnage is shown that makes it unacceptable for most conventions.

I hope that answers your question.

Anneke

[AbsoluteDestiny]

I hope that answers your question.

Anneke

Nope, I'm afraid that doesn't really answer my question at all ^_^;;;


I am aware of the differing content restrictions between conventions, that wasn't really my point. What I was getting at, and was curious as to your reply, was if you had to be specific about what can and can't be shown what would you say?

It's all very well to say "PG-13"... that statement really doesn't mean much. Sometimes I'm very surprised to see how things are certified and I dont think its at all clear what satisfies that standard.


In the UK we have the British Board of Film Censorship which have to classify everything before it gets sold in stores. They have the following guidelines for "PG":

Theme
More serious issues may be featured, eg crime, domestic violence, racism (providing nothing in their treatment condones them).

Language
Mild bad language only.

Nudity
Natural nudity, with no sexual context.

Sex
Sexual activity may be implied, but should be discreet and infrequent. Mild sexual references and innuendo only.

Violence
Moderate violence, without detail, may be allowed - if justified by its setting (eg historic, comedy or fantasy).

Imitable techniques
No glamorisation of realistic, contemporary weapons. No detail of fighting or other dangerous techniques.

Horror
Frightening sequences should not be prolonged or intense. Fantasy settings may be a mitigating factor.

Drugs
No references to illegal drugs or drug use unless entirely innocuous.

Not a terrible set of basic guidelines, really, but I think the main thing is that at least they are reasonably clear about things. Would you advocate a similar list be attributed to amv content for cons showing videos to the general public or do you think the "juges decision is vague yet final" rule to be sufficient? Given the apparent lack of criteria it seems that the judgement is based on gut instinct which isnt always a good thing as unless the video dwells on something the judge might miss something that a less tolerant person would find instantly offensive.

Anyway, it's food for thought. I'm wondering what I can get away with when using this Yami no Matsue footage as some of it is surprisingly explicit when looked at in a certain way. Hmmm, I'm going to have to be careful.

[Shni 0 Pold]

Only the hardcore fans wait in line for the tickets to the AMV contest, so it would be safe to assume that the little Pokemon/Hamtaro generation wouldn't be in the audience.

[anneke]

I love the list of criteria. I'm going to put it into my AMV guide. It's up to the AMV contest to determine, but what you have there is a very good guide.

Ermac's video I would not consider mild/infrequent sexual induindo. By judging on the precentage of the video/time that is in reference to the induindo. (I believe atleast close to 50%).

While the Excell video had a very brief scene.

I think to the list that was mentioned, I would also put that the judges can use their personal judgement abit to. Such as the Utena video in the Ani-Magic contest, had alittle to much 'barbie-doll' type nudity then we would have liked to show, but it wasn't about the nudity, it more used the nudity artistically. We decided that it was barbie doll nudity, and that was okay.

Sometimes it takes until you see the video to make a judgement on it.

I'm not saying the judges were right or wrong in what they choose to show and what they didn't, but I can come to a logical conclussion as to why they may have.

Anneke

[SpPANDA]

scary... drug trips...

[watches shameless rock video]