How to Spot a Bootleg

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Postby m00nL355 » Wed May 12, 2004 8:43 pm

Hmmm, new here, but just a quick question....regular videotapes (VHS i think they're called :?: )...can they be bootleg??? I know awhile back i got a Record of Lodoss Wars tape for a gift, and the dubs are so horrible it made me have to turn it off :shock: , no joke. Granted, the ppl they got could suck really bad too, lol.
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Postby madmag9999 » Wed May 12, 2004 9:04 pm

yes they can.
a bootleg is anything that has been copyed and sold off as the real thing.
there for any type of 'fake' media/software is bootleg
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Postby gothicshark » Thu May 13, 2004 3:02 pm

That is why i get my bootllegs from the source, IE .torrents :wink: they be only the cost of bandwidth
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Postby Declan_Vee » Fri May 14, 2004 4:48 am

gothicshark wrote:That is why i get my bootllegs from the source, IE .torrents :wink: they be only the cost of bandwidth

What you say!!
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Postby m00nL355 » Fri May 14, 2004 1:04 pm

lol, ok, thanks! :D
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Postby missingno81 » Fri May 14, 2004 11:29 pm

If you think about it, most of you rely more on the fake DVDs than you really want to admit. How else would you hear or watch those new series like Naruto.
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Postby Otohiko » Sat May 15, 2004 9:15 am

Fansubs. No, they're also illegal, but at least we don't end up supporting the Chinese mafia by downloading them.
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Postby CyberSilver » Mon May 17, 2004 5:16 pm

I'm sorry to say this, But I believe that it is relativly OK to use BitTorrent and bootlegs in many cases. Why? Simple.

A: many anime shows/movies can only be gotten sub/dub through these ways, as the will most likely never be legaly ported to America.

B: The prices are much to high! You studied up? If so youll see that it only takes about 1/2 the price they charge to ship it and make profit. the rest is going towards lineing some big wigs pocket.

C: With all the damned cencorships and regulations that this country puts on thier imported goods, its damn near imposible to get alot of anime without haveing the words changed and such. (One reason I prefer fansubs to regular subs or translations any day of the week... it stays truer to the Animes origional look and feel).

D: Some of us cant affored to line some big wigs pocket, and have no other means of getting it.

So there. Its just my opinion. Sorry if I offended any of you.


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Postby Otohiko » Mon May 17, 2004 7:50 pm

CyberSilver wrote:A: many anime shows/movies can only be gotten sub/dub through these ways, as the will most likely never be legaly ported to America.


Ok. That's usually not looked down on, especially for using it as AMV footage, but it's neither encouraged nor should be actively supported and endorsed by the .org for the obvious reasons.

B: The prices are much to high! You studied up? If so youll see that it only takes about 1/2 the price they charge to ship it and make profit. the rest is going towards lineing some big wigs pocket.


On one hand, true.

On the other hand, we don't live in a capitalist society for nothing. It's the way the market works. Noone would bring anime over on a large scale if it didn't bring them profits through legal channels. Bootlegs and fansubs have the advantage of not having to pay licensing, promotional, and other such fees associated with legal production.

C: With all the damned cencorships and regulations that this country puts on thier imported goods, its damn near imposible to get alot of anime without haveing the words changed and such. (One reason I prefer fansubs to regular subs or translations any day of the week... it stays truer to the Animes origional look and feel).


Not true of the vast majority DVD's I believe. I'm yet to see a censored DVD that has been released here recently.

D: Some of us cant affored to line some big wigs pocket, and have no other means of getting it.


True. But that's not a justification for using illegal means, merely an exceuse.

Most importantly, it's in the .org's own interest to endorse legal channels and discourage bootlegging. I don't think the officials here are interested in getting involved in promoting a strictly-defined illegal activity which is protected by international and national copyright laws.

If you do it, do so at your own risk and don't get this community involved.

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Postby Kalium » Mon May 17, 2004 7:57 pm

The sad thing is when the fansubs really do have better translation than the domestic releases. Case in point being Crest of the Stars.
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Postby Otohiko » Mon May 17, 2004 8:06 pm

Kalium wrote:The sad thing is when the fansubs really do have better translation than the domestic releases. Case in point being Crest of the Stars.


That is why I don't delete my fansubs, but burn them on CD's instead. I often keep them for reference even when I get the actual show.
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Postby tempestSOC » Tue May 18, 2004 7:31 pm

ok now i just feel sick... I really shoulda read this thread before I posted that link... if I had realized that I never would have bought anything from them(only 1 dvd but...)
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Postby m00nL355 » Thu May 20, 2004 5:42 am

Wish I had read this sooner too. Although I do wish I had the more authentic versions :? Mer, anywho, quick question for general purpose which I find in'trestin. Which do you guys prefer? Subs or Dubs? I'm a sub person here, I like the jap voices ^^;
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Postby angelx03 » Thu May 20, 2004 6:02 am

m00nL355 wrote:Wish I had read this sooner too. Although I do wish I had the more authentic versions :? Mer, anywho, quick question for general purpose which I find in'trestin. Which do you guys prefer? Subs or Dubs? I'm a sub person here, I like the jap voices ^^;


We have enough of those types of questions in here. :?
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Postby Knù¢klés » Thu May 20, 2004 10:50 am

has ne one noticed on sites like ebay bootleggers have started to describe there bootlegs as Region 1 and NTSC instead of saying there Region 0 or Free, in abid to sell more copys... i recently got tricked into buying EscaFlowne which is bootleged and im hesident to watch them.... :evil:

Describion :-
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Escaflowne DVD Box Set
TV Series Episode 1 to 26

japanese Anime dvd
Brand New and Factory Sealed

We only sell factory made DVDs, not home made copies.

Region 1 DVD Player, PS2 and XBOX
Audio: Dolby Digital
Video: NTSC, 4:3

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made in a sweat shop factory in china....
its Region Free, and theres nuffin NTSC about it

thats just one ebay seller of many ive seen :?

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