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Which program is better for masking?

Postby MetamorphosisStudios » Thu Jan 27, 2011 11:52 pm

Adobe After Effects CS5, Premiere Pro CS5, or Sony Vegas 10 Pro?
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Niotex » Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:15 am

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Mrs_Uzumaki » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:48 pm

i'd say sony vegas pro definately, it's simple and easy.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Radical_Yue » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:20 pm

Speaking as a Vegas user who only does masking in Vegas...After Effects is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better.

I mean, if you're just going to do something quick and dirty, sure Vegas can work. But if you plan on doing a lot of roto'ing and want it to look really good, AE is the way to go, hands down. The level of customization AE offers is insane. With Vegas, you can't even create an outline without having to do a workaround with another track + different effects and stuff.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Kanti13 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:13 pm

AFTER EFFECTS! :up:

My biggest problem with Vegas is that nomatter how good your footage and computer are, the preview just can't seem to keep up with frame by frame changes. Even if it looks perfect, when you export it there's lag some place or another and looks awful. When I do mask in Vegas, I take a screen shot of each frame, put them in the timeline and cut them down, then mask them each individually (mask the first one, copy-paste-adjust). It's the only way I can get it accurate :amv:

Plus, like Radical said. You can't really do much with your mask in Vegas. Although you can add a quick glow or drop shadow by using track-motion. I also think that it's easier and more straight-forward on AE as long as you have a basic understanding of the software.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby SuijinReflx » Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:14 am

As the majority as said, After effects is the way to go, instead of creating tedious points and making massive amounts of different types of keyframes (smooth and fast) After effect's keyframes are far easier to control and After Effects also offers a nice supply options for each mask. Enjoy :bear:
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Mister Hatt » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:13 am

Photoshop+Avisynth, don't be a wimp. You can do some crazy hax with Mocha, perl, and avisynth too if you're more masochistic than I am :3
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Cannonaire » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:14 am

Mister Hatt wrote:Photoshop+Avisynth, don't be a wimp. You can do some crazy hax with Mocha, perl, and avisynth too if you're more masochistic than I am :3

I made this script for my Supersonic Gene video when I knew a lot less about Avisynth and NLEs. It makes the piano keys-like effect for the "ooh ooh ooh" part. Somehow, I believe this is still far less hardcore than what Mister Hatt is talking about.
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DGDecode_MPEG2Source("K:\video_rip\outlaw_star\e11.d2v")
KillAudio()
#TComb(mode=1, fthreshC=20, othreshC=18, map=false, scthresh=12.0, debug=false, opt=4)
AMVIVTC(mode=1)
TComb(mode=1, fthreshC=20, othreshC=18, map=false, scthresh=12.0, debug=false, opt=4)
DFMDeRainbow(maskthresh=15, mask=false)
Deblock(quant=25, aOffset=0, bOffset=0, mmx=true, isse=true)
MCTemporalDenoise(settings="medium")
LSFMod(strength=60)
#gradfun2dbmod(temp=100)
Trim(25983, 26529)
#ChangeFPS("ntsc_film")
#AssumeFPS("ntsc_film")
ConvertToRGB32(interlaced=false)
Crop(6, 0, -10, -0)
Spline36Resize(640, 480, src_width=704, src_height=480)
full = last

aa = full.Trim(347, 357)
aa = aa.Spline36Resize(517, 388, src_width=640, src_height=480)
aa = aa.Crop(141, 0, -174, -0)
aa = aa.AddBorders(8, 72, 0, 20, color=$000000)

vida = aa.AddBorders(0, 0, 430, 0, color=$000000)

ba = full.Trim(357, 357)
ba = ba.Spline36Resize(517, 388, src_width=640, src_height=480)
ba = ba.Crop(141, 0, -174, -0)
ba = ba.AddBorders(8, 72, 0, 20, color=$000000)

bb = Full.Trim(252, 261)
bb = bb.Crop(26, 40, -102, -158)
bb = bb.Spline36Resize(414, 228, src_width=512, src_height=282)
bb = bb.AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 0, color=$000000)

vidb = bb.AddBorders(0, 0, 0, 244, color=$000000)
vidb = StackHorizontal(ba, vidb)

ca = full.Trim(357, 357)
ca = ca.Spline36Resize(517, 388, src_width=640, src_height=480)
ca = ca.Crop(141, 0, -174, -0)
ca = ca.AddBorders(8, 72, 0, 20, color=$000000)

cb = Full.Trim(262, 262)
cb = cb.Crop(26, 40, -102, -158)
cb = cb.Spline36Resize(414, 228, src_width=512, src_height=282)
cb = cb.AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 0, color=$000000)

cc = full.Trim(139, 194)
cc = cc.Crop(26, 40, -102, -158)
cc = cc.Spline36Resize(414, 228, src_width=512, src_height=282)
cc = cc.AddBorders(8, 8, 8, 8, color=$000000)

vidc = StackVertical(cb, cc)
vidc = StackHorizontal(ca, vidc)

return vida+vidb+vidc
#return vida
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Brad » Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:02 pm

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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby DJ_Izumi » Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:05 pm

My roommate has a Cintiq 21UX, a $2000 1600x1200 drawing tablet.

I've often wondered how it'd be to use that to mask in AE instead of using the fscking mouse.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Taite » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:18 am

My sister has a Cintiq as well, and I've been meaning to try it for masking. She's used it to trace things and it's definitely easier. Don't know how it'd do with editing though, probably an even more tedious process.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Pwolf » Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:58 am

Really depends on what's more comfortable, imo. I've noticed those who draw normally take up the tablet/stylus pretty easy. For me I find it cumbersome honestly. I don't draw so it's an unnatural feeling. During my 3D work I always stick with the mouse cause it's just more comfortable. I don't really see how it would be beneficial or worse using a stylus though. It's just a matter of comfort using a tool.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Brad » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:43 pm

I know a lot of people in the motion design industry that use a tablet/stylus exclusively. It's supposed to help out a lot with wrist pain and eventually just feel far more natural. Thing is, for the first couple weeks, it'll feel way UNnatural, because you've used a mouse your whole life. But if you fight through those instincts, eventually it'll become 2nd nature. At least that's what I've been told. I'm still a mouse guy myself.
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Re: Which program is better for masking?

Postby Spaintakula » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:25 pm

I've been using sv for everything but since i learned about after effects editing became easier...especialy masking...ae in this case :D :book: :book:
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