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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Bauzi » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:20 pm

Kionon wrote:That was a tongue in cheek response, normal org banter. You're a veteran now, so I am much more likely to twit you than I would some newbie. There was no genuine offense meant.

Oh you only treat veterans like that? Well than it's ok. No seriously it is.
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Athena » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:47 pm

There is now an HD tutorial for this, but I have, as yet, only put together Part 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDHOgXII3q4
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby mirkosp » Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:36 am

Kionon wrote:There is now an HD tutorial for this, but I have, as yet, only put together Part 1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDHOgXII3q4


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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Inkwolf » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:29 pm

I probably did something wrong, but I spent the whole afternoon trying to get a working copy of AMVApp installed in Wine. In the end all that happened was that my old copy of Visualhub (which worked great yesterday) went freaky and then, when I reinstalled it from an old backup, stopped working altogether. I had to download and reinstall ffmpeg and all the other video codecs I could think of. It's working again, now, but will no longer allow me to enter the code to pass audio through uncompressed.

I could use advice. Or sympathy. Or a boot to the head. Or whatever.
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Athena » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:32 am

How odd. Can you walk me through your process?
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Inkwolf » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:44 am

Sorry to be such a whiner, I hate not knowing what I'm doing.

Okay, attempting installation again:

1. Open Wine Bottler
2. Click Create Custom Prefix, select amvapp-21.exe, click Silent Install, then Install button
3. Save as AMVApp.app in Applications
4. Click Okay when warning comes up.
5. Click through 'wizard' accepting licenses. It says it wants to save in 'C\program files\AMV app, wherever the heck 'C' is on a Mac. I've usually changed the location--is that wrong? Not changing this time.
6. Plug-ins: I usually chose Keep Current Plug-ins folder. Choosing backup this time. Just in case.
7. Wizard asks me to find my Premiere Plugins Folder. I have no frogging idea. Hit cancel button.
8. Video Decoder: select supported codecs. I usually added MPEG-2 to the selected list. Not touching it this time. Not adding any extra audio codecs, either.
9. Says it will run tests in Windows Media Player.
Test1--version test. Nothing happens.
Test2--Colorbars test. Nothing happens.
Automatically creating a D2v file. Get window saying Testing MPEG-2 (etc) briefly.
MPeg2 test 1: Nothing happens.
MPeg2 test 2: Nothing happens.
MPeg2 test 3: Nothing happens.

Asks if all tests were successful. Click 'No.' Get message saying the installation is complete. Wizard finishes.

Asks me to select a start file that will be activated when I double-click the application icon. It's a long list of stuff this time. Avisynth is not listed, though the plug-ins, the uninstaller, and the install file are. Selecting VirtualDubMod.exe this time. (I think I let it just use the default the last times. But I remember, I saw this the last time, and there was only a choice of Windows Explorer and something else I didn't recognize.)

Say Prefix Created Successfully. I quite the XII installer thing and Wine Bottler.

Okay, this time the app actually starts up VirtualDubMod. Yay!

But when I try 'Open File with Avisynth," VOB files cause an error. And DV files aren't even recognized. Is something wrong, or do I just need to read the guides around here someplace?

At least my old programs are still working this time...
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Athena » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:03 pm

You should have lied to it and said yes, that all tests were successful. I don't think I've ever told it no.

As for opening up VOBs in VDub... what?

You need to use DGIndex to index the ripped VOBs, then have the AVS file call the .d2v file. Add filters, check in Vdub, then if satisfied, render out clips, move into .mov, place in editor, and go to town.


...are you using the way old version of AMVApp? I really need to edit the whole thing, I guess...
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Scintilla » Sun Jul 04, 2010 10:13 pm

Well, you CAN open VOBs in VirtualDub, at least the Mod variety, but not by using the "via AVISynth" option (unless you D2V it first, of course). Not that it's a great idea, but it is possible. I've done it before.
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Athena » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:42 pm

Scintilla wrote:Well, you CAN open VOBs in VirtualDub, at least the Mod variety, but not by using the "via AVISynth" option (unless you D2V it first, of course). Not that it's a great idea, but it is possible. I've done it before.


Yes, but that's slightly outside of the bounds of this process.
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Qyot27 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:11 am

Scintilla wrote:Well, you CAN open VOBs in VirtualDub, at least the Mod variety, but not by using the "via AVISynth" option (unless you D2V it first, of course). Not that it's a great idea, but it is possible. I've done it before.

And VirtualDub itself, now that the input plugin mechanism exists. The MPEG-2 input plugin supports VOB.

Of course, unless you're working with one of the few discs that use pulldown, I can't really recommend doing it that way either.




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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby mirkosp » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:14 am

Qyot27 wrote:Of course, unless you're working with one of the few discs that use pulldown, I can't really recommend doing it that way either.

If you have a disc with pulldown you should just ignore flag in dgindex and have fun in avisynth instead, imho... I still think it's more reliable.
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Inkwolf » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:55 am

Kionon wrote:
You need to use DGIndex to index the ripped VOBs, then have the AVS file call the .d2v file. Add filters, check in Vdub, then if satisfied, render out clips, move into .mov, place in editor, and go to town.


Okay.

So, how do I get into DGIndex? When I cdouble-click on the AMVApp icon, it just launches VirtualDubMod. I went into the File Manager in Wine, and couldn't find DGIndex anywhere on the virtual C drive. Doing a Mac search for DGIndex finds nothing on my computer.

Do I need to do a separate AMVApp install for every component program?
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Inkwolf » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:00 am

Never mind, found it!
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby Qyot27 » Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:15 am

mirkosp wrote:
Qyot27 wrote:Of course, unless you're working with one of the few discs that use pulldown, I can't really recommend doing it that way either.

If you have a disc with pulldown you should just ignore flag in dgindex and have fun in avisynth instead, imho... I still think it's more reliable.

Of course. I was simply noting that that's about the only time the VDub option is 'safe' - as even back in VDubMod's MPEG-2 input, if there was pulldown the video was rendered as 23.976fps, not 29.97.

Actually, scratch that, it seems that the modern plugin renders at 29.97 even in the presence of pulldown, unlike its previous incarnation(s). Drat.


The extent of my opening MPEG-2 files in VDub/VDubMod these days is basically just to check that those files I think are only composed of stills really are only composed of stills...then I don't actually have to watch them before authoring. It also helps that I know said files are either pure progressive or pure pulldown, no hybrid or interlaced material.
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Re: Avisynth Use on Intel Macs

Postby gotenks794 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:51 pm

So who's gonna release an iPhone AMV?
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