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What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:12 pm

I'm having a bit of trouble here, so I'm hoping that someone can help. I've tried converting most of my RAW anime materials from MP4 AAC format to AVI XviD MP3 format. But Vegas stated that the audio "stream attributes cannot be determined". So I wanted to ask existing Sony Vegas users what format did you guys have for your videos.

Currently I'm using K-Lite Mega Codec Pack for playback of my videos, but someone also recommended I should uninstall that & install only Haali Media Splitter & FFDShow. Can someone also advise on that as well?

I really appreciate help for answering my problems here. Hope to see some replies soon! :)
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby Enigma » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:24 pm

1.READFAGLULZ
2.Don't edit XviD's/DivX's,MP3's.Edit Losless/WAV formats.
3.Uninstall K-Lite It sucks.
4.Get CCPD.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:55 am

Soup wrote:1.Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech3/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>LULZ
2.Don't edit XviD's/DivX's,MP3's.Edit Losless/WAV formats.
3.Uninstall K-Lite It sucks.
4.Get CCPD.


1. Will get to it. Thanks for the suggestion
2. Is MP4 considered lossless (this part might change as I go find out)
4. What's CCPD?
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:42 am

The original question still stands: What are the video & audio codecs/formats that you guys use to edit your videos? I'd prefer Sony Vegas users to answer, but I don't mind other editors as long as you state the software you're using.

Thanks a lot in advance. I'm looking forward to be able to edit my own AMV soon.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby Panky » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:24 pm

twindelphine wrote:
Soup wrote:1.Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech3/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>LULZ
2.Don't edit XviD's/DivX's,MP3's.Edit Losless/WAV formats.
3.Uninstall K-Lite It sucks.
4.Get CCPD.


1. Will get to it. Thanks for the suggestion
2. Is MP4 considered lossless (this part might change as I go find out)
4. What's CCPD?


2. No, lossless are considered those codecs that may not change the video information, so quality stays the same ( such codecs like HUFFYUV, Lagarith ). They weight more than you could expect, though (lagarith less, but needs more processing power). However, if you start from a MP4, editing to these won't make much of a difference. I think Soup referred to the fact of starting from a better quality source.

4. I believe he meant CCCP(Combined Community Codec Pack), because he was talking about Codec Pack.

twindelphine wrote:The original question still stands: What are the video & audio codecs/formats that you guys use to edit your videos? I'd prefer Sony Vegas users to answer, but I don't mind other editors as long as you state the software you're using.


The best would be like Soup said, to edit from Lossless sources from the best quality DVD's sources you could find. I have only used Adobe Premiere editor, but I can tell that editing to MP4 containers is usually (not always) buggy, at least from the very poor experience I have in using them. I don't see why it wouldn't work with a AVI Xvid and MP3, my guess is that the conversion wasn't good at all and there was a problem in the middle. And even if you can play it with the player, maybe it won't read in the editor.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby Kariudo » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:05 pm

The reason xvid, divx, h.264 (in general) and the like don't work in editing programs is because not every frame has all of the information needed to fully reconstruct the video. You get a lot of frames that rely on data from the previous frame, which also relies on data from its previous frame...and so on until you hit a keyframe (which can be a few hundred frames back.)

.mp3 should work just fine in editing programs (because each audio sample has all the information needed to make the sound it's supposed to make.) That said, it's probably still a good idea to work with lossless audio through as much of the editing process as you can...quality stuff and whatnot.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby xPiikanyaa » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:05 am

From my experience, Vegas will accept most common formats, but hates any compressed avi videos. :wink:
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:27 am

Pankyy wrote:2. No, lossless are considered those codecs that may not change the video information, so quality stays the same ( such codecs like HUFFYUV, Lagarith ). They weight more than you could expect, though (lagarith less, but needs more processing power). However, if you start from a MP4, editing to these won't make much of a difference. I think Soup referred to the fact of starting from a better quality source.

4. I believe he meant CCCP(Combined Community Codec Pack), because he was talking about Codec Pack.

twindelphine wrote:The original question still stands: What are the video & audio codecs/formats that you guys use to edit your videos? I'd prefer Sony Vegas users to answer, but I don't mind other editors as long as you state the software you're using.


The best would be like Soup said, to edit from Lossless sources from the best quality DVD's sources you could find. I have only used Adobe Premiere editor, but I can tell that editing to MP4 containers is usually (not always) buggy, at least from the very poor experience I have in using them. I don't see why it wouldn't work with a AVI Xvid and MP3, my guess is that the conversion wasn't good at all and there was a problem in the middle. And even if you can play it with the player, maybe it won't read in the editor.


4. I'm hoping you are right. Perhaps Soup can confirm this? Cos only he can rectify his error.

& with regards to your last paragraph, I've been dependent on mp4 H.264/X.264 AAC sources from torrents, since I don't have the resources to get all the anime series I wanted. Playing them was not too big an issue, but the post-conversion process (I was using SUPER Converter to convert this) was a bit of a problem since Sony couldn't read them.

Maybe the SUPER Converter may be the problem. I've been using FFmpeg with all my series I almost thought there is not a problem. Perhaps I can convert to .mpg & see if it works, since I know someone who have worked with that format in Sony Vegas.

Kariudo wrote:.mp3 should work just fine in editing programs (because each audio sample has all the information needed to make the sound it's supposed to make.) That said, it's probably still a good idea to work with lossless audio through as much of the editing process as you can...quality stuff and whatnot.


Which is why I wonder why it didn't work at all. Even now Sony Vegas refuses to read the audio of my videos.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby Enigma » Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:45 am

Yeah i meant CCCP i always type CCPD by accident ;p
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:25 am

Glad with the correction Soup. I'm familiar with CCCP before. It had caused several problems with playback, but that was the 2008 version that they had.

Like I said it seems strange that Sony Vegas cannot read MP3 audio in video but was able to play MP3 songs. Found similar problems posted online that dates back even to 2000. Anyways contacting Sony Creative on the matter.

I am thinking of converting to a format like .mpg file with .mp2 audio codec, since I don't really have much space with both my original & AVI converted files all around my internal & external hard drives for the lossless conversion. But I wanna ask, what's the best way to convert a MP4 (H.264 video, AAC audio) to a readable format by Sony Vegas with minimum loss in quality & not too much of space increase?
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby Mastamind » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:22 am

You really shouldn't use those filetypes for editing... for the reasons Kariudo stated even if Vegas accepts .mpg or mp4 it's likely to give you errors along the way. Lagarith avi is probably your best choice. And if they take up too much space, you can always cut them to use only parts you need for your video.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:13 am

Mastamind wrote:You really shouldn't use those filetypes for editing... for the reasons Kariudo stated even if Vegas accepts .mpg or mp4 it's likely to give you errors along the way. Lagarith avi is probably your best choice. And if they take up too much space, you can always cut them to use only parts you need for your video.


Ok. I'll try that out & see what happens.

I guess that's the problem of getting MP4 torrents. :(
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:23 am

OK, sorry for the double post. I just want to update a little something that I noticed while using the AVI converted file in VirtualDub, the file was actually still in VBR. Still finding a way via Google to rectify the problem. But if anyone knows of a solution please reply to this message.
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Re: What Formats can Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 9 read?

Postby twindelphine » Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:40 am

Strangely another AVI file that I found to have Constant Bit Rate (CBR) appears to have the same problems. Figured that one of the players or a codec might be the cause of this, so I'm gonna try some time tomorrow to try to resolve the problem.

Do anyone with the same problem have Quicktime/iTunes installed in the computer? I think that that software might be the problem since it is always reading MP3 files & formats.
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Postby twindelphine » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:30 am

In the progress of recovering some files... My external hard drive crashed on me while I was doing some conversion, so been away for a while.

On the side note have there been any reported conflicts between AMV App & CCCP? Both have some similar codecs, & when installing CCCP the software informs me of some conflicting mpeg4 decoder (with no AMV App installed of course).
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