Finalists for Anime Expo Anime Music Video Contest 2008

YouTube · Post by **Rider4Z** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:31 pm

anneke wrote: Video 1 = Question 1

Answer A - Voting for this video NO
Answer B - Voting for this video Yes (Best of Category)
Answer C - Voting for this video Best of show
Answer D - Voting for this video Best of show & Best of Category.

It's as simple as that.
-Anneke

*crossing fingers* i think i got it...

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:54 pm

When it's "all the above", that's always the right answer.

DigitalPanther · Post by **DigitalPanther** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:55 pm

7 finalists per category.
1-7 action
11-17 Drama
21-27 Comedy
31-37 Pro
Best of show. 91-94

I realize it is not the best of methods for this time around. this is a test and , due to a variety of interferences some my fault, some not, we weren't able to get the machines back in march when Anneke and I started the research.

I was more focused on getting the discs done and and prepped on time and such. It almost fell through the cracks. I apologize.

I have formated the recaps so the number for the video is clearly shown.
Ex:
BALLOT #:
[ 2 ]

as a very visible bug in the lower right corner during the recap segment.

If this works we will be purchasing a machine that we can make custom sheets for and making more effective forms. This year, we doing the best we can with what we have.

-DP

DigitalPanther · Post by **DigitalPanther** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:56 pm

MisterFurious wrote:
DigitalPanther wrote:Presuming the system we have set up works (the unit arrives today or tomorrow) it should be plenty of time. Scantron ftw. Yes I am sorry. You will have to have your little highschool flashback. this year we are testing it then if it works we will acutally buy a machine and make custom ballot sheets rather than the generic ones for next year.
Way beter than hand balloting and Light years better than the sound meter.
-DP
Uh oh, I sense problems. You're going to use a generic scantron form? The one that just has numbers and A-E answers? That's fine and dandy for a multiple choice test, but this is a ballot for a contest. There is going to be so much confusion over how you fill in the form for each category, how you choose the winner, etc.

More importantly, how will you choose audience best-of-show? It would not be right to simply give that award to the video that has the most votes in its category, as all that determines is which video most easily won its category, not necessarily the audience's favorite. The only way to fairly use the scantron form to determine that award is to set aside one line for each of the videos, then tell the audience to only put a mark on the line corresponding to the video that is their choice for best-of-show.

You're going to have your hands full drafting instructions for how to vote with the scantron. It'll probably have to be a separate sheet handed out with the forms. People aren't going to like it...

If only you had had time to come up with a custom scantron ballot....

its numbered 1 - 100 in 20 lines 5 bubbles each. It has a ballot mode so it will count vs grade right against wrong. See previous post for methodology in numbering used.
-DP

DigitalPanther · Post by **DigitalPanther** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:57 pm

anneke wrote:Scantron is a great way to go.

Video 1 = Question 1

Answer A - Voting for this video NO
Answer B - Voting for this video Yes (Best of Category)
Answer C - Voting for this video Best of show
Answer D - Voting for this video Best of show & Best of Category.

It's as simple as that.

The problem is in 'grading' the ballots. I don't know if the machine will spit out what people voted for or not.

-Anneke

Our original idea was something similar to that. unfortunately there are only 20 lines on the form and 28 entries.
-DP

MisterFurious · Post by **MisterFurious** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:21 pm

DigitalPanther wrote:7 finalists per category.
1-7 action
11-17 Drama
21-27 Comedy
31-37 Pro
Best of show. 91-94

I realize it is not the best of methods for this time around. this is a test and , due to a variety of interferences some my fault, some not, we weren't able to get the machines back in march when Anneke and I started the research.

I was more focused on getting the discs done and and prepped on time and such. It almost fell through the cracks. I apologize.

I have formated the recaps so the number for the video is clearly shown.
Ex:
BALLOT #:
[ 2 ]

as a very visible bug in the lower right corner during the recap segment.

If this works we will be purchasing a machine that we can make custom sheets for and making more effective forms. This year, we doing the best we can with what we have.

-DP

I think I understand, although you're locking the audience into voting for ONLY the category winners as best-of-show. It has happened in past contests (though not at AX as long as I can remember) that the best-of-show winner wasn't necessarily the winner in its category.

Ladies and gentlemen of the AMV community....I'm just a caveman! Your modern world scares and confuses me. When I hear all your talk of scantron forms and balloting I just want to run away - to my house in Malibu.

MisterFurious · Post by **MisterFurious** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:27 pm

DigitalPanther wrote:its numbered 1 - 100 in 20 lines 5 bubbles each. It has a ballot mode so it will count vs grade right against wrong. See previous post for methodology in numbering used.
-DP

5 bubbles each? So how do the attendees know which one of the five to fill in for the video they're voting for? Will a vote count if they fill in the wrong bubble for their video?

And will we count hanging chads?

DigitalPanther · Post by **DigitalPanther** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:04 am

MisterFurious wrote:
DigitalPanther wrote:its numbered 1 - 100 in 20 lines 5 bubbles each. It has a ballot mode so it will count vs grade right against wrong. See previous post for methodology in numbering used.
-DP
5 bubbles each? So how do the attendees know which one of the five to fill in for the video they're voting for? Will a vote count if they fill in the wrong bubble for their video?

And will we count hanging chads?

Please refer to my previous post.
The category recaps will show the ballot number for the video in question.
-Michael

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:27 am

MisterFurious wrote:
DigitalPanther wrote:7 finalists per category.
1-7 action
11-17 Drama
21-27 Comedy
31-37 Pro
Best of show. 91-94

I realize it is not the best of methods for this time around. this is a test and , due to a variety of interferences some my fault, some not, we weren't able to get the machines back in march when Anneke and I started the research.

I was more focused on getting the discs done and and prepped on time and such. It almost fell through the cracks. I apologize.

I have formated the recaps so the number for the video is clearly shown.
Ex:
BALLOT #:
[ 2 ]

as a very visible bug in the lower right corner during the recap segment.

If this works we will be purchasing a machine that we can make custom sheets for and making more effective forms. This year, we doing the best we can with what we have.

-DP
I think I understand, although you're locking the audience into voting for ONLY the category winners as best-of-show. It has happened in past contests (though not at AX as long as I can remember) that the best-of-show winner wasn't necessarily the winner in its category.

Ladies and gentlemen of the AMV community....I'm just a caveman! Your modern world scares and confuses me. When I hear all your talk of scantron forms and balloting I just want to run away - to my house in Malibu.

Actually I want to say that it has happened, I believe it did sometime around 2003 that the Best in Show was not in fact the winner of its best in catagory, I could be wrong on this but I'm fairly certain it did happen at AX within recent years.

anneke · Post by **anneke** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:02 am

Only a 20 question ballot...

Question 1 & 2 (Action)
Question 1
A - Video 1
B - Video 2
C - Video 3
D - Video 4
E - Video 5

Question 2
A - Video 6
B - Video 7

Ofcourse it would seem that instead of letters the bubbles are numbered.

I HIGHLY recommend that there be instructions shown on the screens, before and after (and even during) the contest to make sure people understand how to judge/use the ballots.

If you can't scan the ballot into the computer to then edit a demo, you could find a picture of a scantron on-line I'm sure. You don't have much time but a little video/power point to explain to everyone how to judge/use the ballots would be wonderful.

-Anneke