Sony vegas render settings?

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Sony vegas render settings?

Postby Garoes » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:06 am

Hey,
I'm quite new to making amvs.
I use Sony Vegas Pro 10.

Anyone know the best render settings most suitable for You-tube? Regardless of the file size .

Thanks in advance :D ,
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby HalOfBorg » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:40 pm

Render it lossless from Vegas, then use Zarx264GUI to encode it. My Youtube always work with that.
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby Garoes » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:18 pm

HalOfBorg, Thanks dude so much! :P
No longer will I have to upload like 500MB to YouTube all the time :P
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby Mister Hatt » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:38 am

Blur it a bit for youtube uploads to trick the quantizer, it'll be less blocky at lower bitrates that way </hax>

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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby kireblue » Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:14 pm

Mister Hatt wrote:Blur it a bit for youtube uploads to trick the quantizer, it'll be less blocky at lower bitrates that way </hax>

ummmm.....no. Do not do that. The files that Zarx264GUI makes for me are usually less that 30Mb. There is absolutely no need to reduce the quality of the video.

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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby Mister Hatt » Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:54 am

Where did I say it reduces the quality of the video? In fact, it increases it you dolt.

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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby HalOfBorg » Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:45 am

Perhaps the term 'blur' is causing the confusion - it is for me.
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby mirkosp » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:19 pm

Here's what youtube does when the video isn't blurred:
OH GOD WHAT DO I DO I NEED INCREASE THE QUANTIZER IF I WANT TO KEEP THIS WITHIN BITRATE LIMITS -> Shit looks awful
What it does when it's slightly blurred:
OHEY THIS QUANTIZER SHOULD BE FINE NO NEED TO COMPRESS IT TO HELL -> Shit looks less awful
That's about it.
An alternative is using some denoiser to remove some extra detail or something like that. Basically, you want to make the video easy to compress so youtube will be able to mangle it less, and less detail means less bitrate required, generally. It's just that blurring it a bit is the easiest way to do it.
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby HalOfBorg » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:33 pm

So you mean to take this for example:
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and do this to it: (exaggerated)
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not THIS: (also exaggerated)
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby mirkosp » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:59 pm

Yeah, I guess. It's just that simply blurring is easier and faster, aside from safer if you want to be totally sure youtube won't overquantize (very sharp borders are still somewhat of an issue). Plus anybody knows how to blur lightly; denoise... not so much.
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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby Mister Hatt » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:16 am

Technically you want to smooth and not blur, as flatter gradients tend to get raped less, and allow for more bitrate to go into small detail and sharp edges, but depending on source blur might be better. Smoothing will give you a better result overall, but it's much harder to get tweaked exactly as you need it to maximise detail, so blur is easier. I do quite literally mean to run a blur filter over it tho.

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Re: Sony vegas render settings?

Postby nifear4 » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:55 pm

This is how I render videos in general. I do:

1. Render to LOSELESS (always, you will be deleting it after a successful encode anyways).
2. I personally use MeGUI to encode my video's, feels like I have more control over them but whatever you want to use. (Do what you need to do to get the file size you want and the video quality to match it)

Do a side-by-side comparison, for example, if you are still new to encoding (like me). Use high-def quality videos where you can instantly tell difference in quality like The Elephant Dream (free to download from their archives, just google it).


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