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posting other peoples videos

Postby zibbazabba905 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:04 pm

I know you can't do it on the .org obviously, but what are peoples views on reposting other peoples amvs on youtube? I found one I liked and saved, but their profile or whatever got taken down... would it be kosher to put it back up?
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby Ileia » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:09 pm

It depends on the individual editor. Some people really don't like it, some people don't mind. Personally, I'm okay with it. To me, it's just getting my video out there, getting it seen by more people. To be safe, I'd ask always the creator first.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby zibbazabba905 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:12 pm

that's part of why I want to upload it, because the youtubes won't even tell me the name of who it was from (the link just says "account removed")
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby HalOfBorg » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:23 pm

Leave my credits on it and post away.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby gotegenks » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:49 pm

if you wanna be uber safe, you should link to their Org account or Youtube account if possible. If you do that, i can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with it, even without the links, if you put credits, then it would be pretty petty imo if they had a problem with it, at least enough of one to do something about it.

there are so many amvchannels now though that it's almost to be expected with this hobby, so i wouldn't worry about it.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:53 pm

Take it from the perspective of "what if i'm the one who's upload they find and sue this guy over." If you're willing to go to bat and foot the legal bill, then by all means, go ahead. People aren't stupid - if they wanted it there, i'd be there already, by their own hand.

I think it's a matter of respect in this sort of hobby to let people manage their own risks and not try to do it for them. You're responsible for your own actions you choose to take, I have no right to potentially do you harm for my own gain.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby zibbazabba905 » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:11 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote: People aren't stupid - if they wanted it there, i'd be there already, by their own hand.

I think it's a matter of respect in this sort of hobby to let people manage their own risks and not try to do it for them. You're responsible for your own actions you choose to take, I have no right to potentially do you harm for my own gain.


That's the thought that made me ask first, what if they didn't like it, whatnot, and that's why its down. The other side, the reason I want to put it up, is instead of saying "hey, anyone ever seen that one AMV, with that song, to that anime? I kinda liked it and want to give whoever made it props" I can say "I like this amv, I don't know who its' by, but have a watch"

Its kinda like taking in an orphaned kid. Give it a home, but you never know if the parents/authorities have some problem with it
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby Pwolf » Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:17 pm

Out of the 12 years i've been editing, I've only ever uploaded 1 video to youtube, by request. However, you can find a lot of my videos on youtube uploaded by other people. I honestly don't really care as it puts my name out there and people enjoy my work. As long as my credits are still there, I don't mind. And it's not so much that I want people to know I made the video, it's also giving credit to those who provided my sources: the anime and music I used.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby Scintilla » Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:23 pm

I know this doesn't apply in this particular case of yours, but in general:
If it's at all possible to get in contact with the creator, then for the love of Pen-Pen, ask him/her first. It's only common courtesy.

At least, that's what I've always assumed. I've always believed that the creator of an AMV ought to be able to decide where on the Web to publish/host it (I'm phrasing it that way to exclude linking and embedding) and where not to.

Since 2006, I've gotten into the habit of putting a big "Thank you in advance for NOT uploading my videos to YouTube" into the Org info pages of all of my videos. This is because I upload them to my own account already and don't want the viewership split.
Apparently, however, people still aren't getting the message (or just don't care, which is an even worse thought). And as far as I can tell, I've never seen any increased traffic to my own pages resulting from such duplicate postings. (Though I understand that some people have.)

On top of that, you can tell from the comments that an awful lot of, if not most, viewers just assume that whoever uploaded a video also created it. And that's just plain annoying when the video's yours.

However, I am given to understand that mine is a stricter stance on the issue than a lot of people around here have.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby AceD » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:10 am

Scintilla wrote:Since 2006, I've gotten into the habit of putting a big "Thank you in advance for NOT uploading my videos to YouTube" into the Org info pages of all of my videos. This is because I upload them to my own account already and don't want the viewership split.
I always find it funny when you see a few people say this, the fact is people are watching your video who would otherwise almost certainly never watch it in there life. Your views are been split with views you never had in the first place.

People don't care because such a way of thinking is completely retarded.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:26 am

AceD wrote:
Scintilla wrote:Since 2006, I've gotten into the habit of putting a big "Thank you in advance for NOT uploading my videos to YouTube" into the Org info pages of all of my videos. This is because I upload them to my own account already and don't want the viewership split.
I always find it funny when you see a few people say this, the fact is people are watching your video who would otherwise almost certainly never watch it in there life. Your views are been split with views you never had in the first place.

People don't care because such a way of thinking is completely retarded.

I can see someone making a claim that it's maybe a tad arrogant to want recognition at all costs, but not that it's retarted to want that. There is a difference between your work being recognized and you, the creator, being recognised. A lot of people like the whole recognition thing.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby AceD » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:45 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
AceD wrote:
Scintilla wrote:Since 2006, I've gotten into the habit of putting a big "Thank you in advance for NOT uploading my videos to YouTube" into the Org info pages of all of my videos. This is because I upload them to my own account already and don't want the viewership split.
I always find it funny when you see a few people say this, the fact is people are watching your video who would otherwise almost certainly never watch it in there life. Your views are been split with views you never had in the first place.

People don't care because such a way of thinking is completely retarded.

I can see someone making a claim that it's maybe a tad arrogant to want recognition at all costs, but not that it's retarted to want that. There is a difference between your work being recognized and you, the creator, being recognised. A lot of people like the whole recognition thing.

Getting the recognition is very easy, all the editor has to do is post a comment like "o hai glad you all liked it", and its almost guaranteed people will thumb it up....if the uploader is a nice enough guy he might just respond to the comment so its bumped to the top.

The "split viewership and losing views you never had in the first place", no matter how i think about it...IS retarded.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby Chained(E)Studio » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:56 am

I don't mind at all.
Its nice of course when they credit you or put in your links so their viewers can come check out your other work...

But, even when they don't or if they used clips from my AMVs. I don't mind, I laugh instead. My boyfriend gets his AMVs cut up a lot in other peoples AMVs on youtube, and he finds it funny as well and flattering. Its not nice that they are using your "editing" but we don't own the anime, only the "editing". So at the end of the day.. well.. I'd rather drink hot chocolate then hunt someone down for posting my AMVs or using my "edited" clips.
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby Knowname » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:42 pm

I go ahead and post other ppl's videos on Gametrailers.com if I can't find them on there. I think reposting on a streaming site isn';t the worst thing to do... I mean obviously it's redundant if there's a million of the vid already, but it's SO hard to search on there I think it's cool to put up if a reletively quick search doesn't find the video your posting. As long as you post the link to the original vid and don't take credit for yourself of coarse...
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Re: posting other peoples videos

Postby zibbazabba905 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:47 pm

I think its quite annoying when someone takes someones youtube video which is STILL ACTIVE and just uploads it again on their channel. I think I remember reading one of the "content providers" ranting about it "...don't just copy it, change it, edit it, parody it, make a youtube poop or something!"
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