"I can do better!"

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"I can do better!"

Postby zibbazabba905 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:08 pm

Sometimes I hear a song or watch a show and think "this would go good with X!" When I look it up, most of the time that combination doesn't already exist. Sometimes It does exist but after I watch it I think it could have been done better. Would that be a dick move to re-do someone's AMV?
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby l33tmeatwad » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:30 pm

I tend to avoid them because I prefer to do something new, but I wouldn't say it's a dick thing to do to remake something that's already been done, as long as you don't copy a lot of the same clips they did after watching it. Also, it depends on if it's "been done well" before too. If it's a "youtube special" and looks craptascular, I wouldn't consider it "done before," but if it's a decently done AMV, that's a different story. Search "Business Time AMV" on YouTube for a good example of "thought of before" but "not done well."
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby l33tmeatwad » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:35 pm

Additional Note: When you search for "Business Time AMV" you should find the one snapxynith and myself did this year (Shinji does (not) Mean Business), and a video that was "made" a few years ago...I discovered that video shortly after coming up with the idea for "Shinji does (not) Mean Business", needless to say I went ahead and finished the video based off of my concept, lol...
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby Radical_Yue » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:16 pm

One of the most supported ideas in AMV editing is "make what you want."

I mean, it'd be kind of a dick move if your only intention is to show up the previous editor who used the combination...but if you've got an idea and you just want to do it because you love the sources, then go for it.

No one can tell you what you can and can't make. There are critics out there (myself being one of them) who won't always give your video a gold sticker. But if you're truly happy with what you made and you're just editing "for the love of the game," so to speak, then it more than likely won't bother you. I mean, if you like it, who gives an F what other people think?
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby Pwolf » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:43 pm

Radical_Yue wrote:One of the most supported ideas in AMV editing is "make what you want."


I disagree, I hear a lot of people saying "Don't use Dragon Ball Z, Linkin Park, Shinkai, etc...". That said, fuck those people and do what you want :P
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:11 am

I'd recommend that if you are going to look up videos for the same combo that you do not watch them if you have intention to make the video anyway... it will effect your editing... at least it has for me... and not in a good way :(

I've always found watching videos that use the same combo after I finish mine to be fun to see other people's take on the same idea.
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:33 am

A more complicated scenario:

There's a big difference between just happening upon the same combo as someone else with an idea you already had, and finding a video, being totally underwhelmed by the performance, and redoing it better than they did. To an outsider observer, you can totally feign ignorance and they're both the same, but for anyone in the know, there is a fear you'll be vilified either in the community or, certainly, by the original editor, for doing that. It has the air of an antagonistic action. So, what then? Do you redo what they failed to perfect?
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby HalOfBorg » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:08 am

I had been tinkering with an idea for a while, pretty much was getting solid on it when a video was linked (using same anime) and given good remarks so I checked it out.

Bastard STOLE my idea - before I even started working on it!! :) About 1/2 of it was just what I had been thinking. So i never made my video. Who knows - maybe mine would have been better. But I'll never know now.

Before working on "Cowboy" I looked around and found nothing. Afterwards I easily found one on youtube. Watched it and was very happy. Not only was it very different, but in my opinion it sucked big time.
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:21 am

HalOfBorg wrote:Before working on "Cowboy" I looked around and found nothing. Afterwards I easily found one on youtube. Watched it and was very happy. Not only was it very different, but in my opinion it sucked big time.

Did you not look on youtube first or was it uploaded after you first looked? I tend to look on youtube first due to there being some editors that don't even known about or just don't post on the org that still make decent videos. I remember when I heard the song "Uprising" by Muse I thought of Code Geass, but when I searched for it I found out there was a really good one that was only on youtube (they used CN footage...but the editing wasn't bad). This was a while back, there are like a billion copycats that made that same AMV now (and I can't find the original...).
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby HalOfBorg » Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:11 am

I looked before hand - or at least I think I did. My memory has a lot in common with swiss cheese.

I've had this happen several times before so maybe it's just something screwy with me. Then again I can't find that other video NOW so maybe I was dreaming.
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby Castor Troy » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:00 pm

I confess I've thought this way, but I'd rather focus on my own original ideas rather than remaking someone else's videos.

Now to work on my Eva Chop Suey video /2002

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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby Nya-chan Production » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:53 pm

You guys all steal my videos with your dick moves! D:

Before I even make them! D:
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby l33tmeatwad » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:00 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:You guys all steal my videos with your dick moves! D:

Before I even make them! D:

Actually, you have no AMV ideas, I use a dream machine to plant your videos ideas in your head.

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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby CrackTheSky » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:24 pm

I've done it before, and I'll probably do it again. Who really cares, though? If you don't inform the original editor and then he or she finds out, so what? All you're doing is making a video you want to see made. If it was already done by someone else, and they didn't make it how you wished it had been made, then do it yourself. They can look at it as being "shown up" all they want, in the end it's (I assume) about what you want to see done that they weren't able to satisfy in their iteration.

In the case of the video I made, the original frustrated me so much because the song/anime combo was perfect, but the editing was just this side of horrible, and I really wanted to see it done right. If the original editor had found out and been offended, well, tough. Ideas for AMVs can't be patented, if they could there wouldn't have been a new video on the .org since 2005, and possibly earlier than that.

That's not to say don't try to do new things, but ultimately everything (or almost everything) has been done in some way or another, whether you're aware of it or not.
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Re: "I can do better!"

Postby EvaFan » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:41 pm

I'll just say this... If you copy ANY of MY IDEAS and make them BETTER...

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