Why the hell is it so hard to make a original Idea now..

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:23 am

Sorry, I've already done a music video to that on April Fool's Day.

http://www.absolutedestiny.org/john_cage-4m33s.zip

To fit in with Cage's theory that you are listening to what is going on around you, in this video you are watching what is round you including the reflections in your monitor

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:31 am

Heh. It would be funnier if it didn't make Xine's demuxer crash -- I suppose I'll have to report this video to Guenter Bartsch.

Dangit, though. That was one of the only (non-vulgar) really "original" ideas I thought I had. Guess I'll have to reach back further into music esoterica -- how about one to Antheil and Leger's (I think that's right) 1925 Ballet Mechanique? That's sure to grate (ha ha) a few people.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:35 am

Sachiko M makes music using sine waves where if you move your head around you hear different harmonics.

If you could make an amv that was a stereograph to go with that, that would be cool

Shame my eyes are messed up so I can't see them.

SarahtheBoring · Post by **SarahtheBoring** » Sat Aug 03, 2002 7:01 pm

...guess my theory that "obscure does not automatically mean deep, important, or original" really didn't go over well.

Ah well, it's to be expected. People are always happy if they know entertainment that "few" people know. Makes them feel special and important.

Meh.

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Sat Aug 03, 2002 11:36 pm

SarahtheBoring wrote:...guess my theory that "obscure does not automatically mean deep, important, or original" really didn't go over well.
Ah well, it's to be expected. People are always happy if they know entertainment that "few" people know. Makes them feel special and important...

I think your theory is ok, but there is more to it than that.

If someone says an AMV is "original", it's appropriate to ask him, "In what way?" For example, a love story AMV is not by itself original. A love story AMV using Oh My Goddess! is also not original; been done before. A love story AMV using Cosmo Warrior Zero is original in the sense that one has never been done before (at least I don't think it has). But it may not be original in concept, theme, execution, etc.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:57 am

SarahtheBoring wrote:...guess my theory that "obscure does not automatically mean deep, important, or original" really didn't go over well.

Ah well, it's to be expected. People are always happy if they know entertainment that "few" people know. Makes them feel special and important.

Well I don't intentionally seek obscurity but you have to admit that doing something obscure and different can have its appeal.

Anyway, as I've already said in this thread, doing "original" things is easy - doing original but good things is difficult.

Actually I found the definition of original to be quite interesting:

"original —adj. 1 existing from the beginning; earliest; innate. 2 inventive; creative; not derivative or imitative. 3 not copied or translated; by the artist etc. himself (in the original Greek; has an original Rembrandt). —n. original model, pattern, picture, etc. from which another is copied or translated. originality n. originally adv."

Guess that rules out all of my videos then ^_^

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:13 am

SarahtheBoring wrote:...guess my theory that "obscure does not automatically mean deep, important, or original" really didn't go over well.

Ah well, it's to be expected. People are always happy if they know entertainment that "few" people know. Makes them feel special and important.

Meh.

I brought those pieces up because -- well, they haven't been done before, and they open themselves up to an absolutely huge number of possibilities. I don't think I've ever seen an AMV to the Ballet Mechanique. Or, to go on AD's suggestion, an AMV rendered as one big stereograph.

Something that hasn't been done before certainly has a degree of originality to it.

Oh, and yes, I do enjoy knowing about things that most people don't know about. Call it elitism, call it ego-stroking, call it intellectual masturbation, call it whatever the hell you want. But I doubt that you don't derive the same pleasure from holding obscure knowledge.

Kamoc · Post by **Kamoc** » Sun Aug 04, 2002 5:41 am

everybody's doin me..
got no come around; ecstasy..
don't think about it in this world..
the camera won't let it hold..
the blood and dust of love are sewn
the digital won't let me go.

tomarrow..
tomarrow comes..
today.

starin' off
i want it all
it's takin me a fight too long
laughing out in this world
i don't think i'll be here too long..
i don't think..
yeah.. i beleive that..
tomarrow..
tomarrow comes..
today.

tomarrow builds our deepend sorrow..
all taken from our own show..
make the rythme into a world..
and you watch for your cameo.
yeah yeah..

tommarow..
i don't know..
tomarrow..
i'll hold..
tomarrow..
feels cold..
tomarrow..
we're sold..
all while tomarrow..
tomarrow..
comes..
today.

post-it · Post by **post-it** » Sun Aug 04, 2002 7:57 am

I think you all are missing the point of AMV's and the songs that go with them.
People do not care what Video goes to which song; only bad videos with a song they like!

these have not been done yet:
Hakura ( Angelic Layer ) dancing to the DJ's graceful mix of Enya - Only Time.
the pink "cat girl" & "lone wolf" ( Tokyo Mew Mew ) hehehe, with the ears popping up at the wrong moment to "HEAVEN"-D.J SAMMY/YANOU.
Boys Be to "story of your heart"-D.J SAMMY/YANOU. ( mexican dance mix )
Wedding Peach to "so impulsive" - ? not sure ( college radio A-POP )

what they are tired of are DBZ to Creed, Nichel Back, or whatever name they call themselves to make mono-tone Canaidian Garbage!
for THAT is repulsive!
. well, so are those who have to scream into the mic with bad head-bangers PUNK.

--just my opinion

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Sun Aug 04, 2002 10:42 am

I honestly don't feel that my ideas are more original than anyone else's but one thing I do always try and do is use unlisted music. It's weird seeing music of my youth from the 60's (well not really my youth but still a great era), 70's, and 80's just ignored for the hard rock stuff being filtered to us now. I wish people would really take a look at those musical era's, it make for alot more interesting vids IMHO. ^_^