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Star Scale Hints Added

Postby Phade » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:08 pm

Hey,

After looking over the star scale votes, it seems that some people need hints as to what exactly the star scale values mean. Here's the breakdown of the count of all star scale votes from most frequent to least frequent:

5 - 345239
3 - 343238
4 - 312132
2 - 133024
1 - 87548

Here's the breakdown after the people who give the same scores all the time are ignored (these values are the ones that are actually used in star average calculations):

3 - 325958
5 - 303980
4 - 300979
2 - 132541
1 - 86799

That's better, but not quite there yet. The number that are above average (average should = 3) is still much more than the number below average.

It could be that people wait until a new above average video shows up on a list, download it, agree that it's above average, and give a score accordingly. But just to make sure, I've added some hints at the top and bottom of the "my downloads" page. The hints change around since, after all, they are just hints.

I hope this helps. Thanks again and have fun!! ^_^

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Postby Corran » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:25 pm

Wow, 1221181 video downloads total, at least that have been scored already.


You have downloaded 560 local videos.
Average Star Rating Given By You: 3.77


-_-;; Sorry Phade I guess I'm just a little too generous with my scores...
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Postby Brad » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:27 pm

Well, for me, I generally just don't download videos that look like they'd get a 1 or 2 (meaning, generic DBZ videos, etc.) Hence why I don't give out that many of those ratings. This is probably a fairly common practice.
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Postby Jnzk » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:32 pm

Average Star Rating Given By You: 3.02

Your Star Distribution
5 = Two thumbs up 40
4 = Thumbs up 171
3 = Eeeegh 251
2 = Thumbs down 168
1 = Two thumbs down 36

I had no idea my ratings were so well balanced. :shock:
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Postby angelx03 » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:33 pm

Yea, I tend to download videos from "competent" creators and rarely from "new" creators. I feel so biased. Sorry! :oops: :oops:
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Postby Zarxrax » Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:35 pm

I keep mine at 3.00 average. If I go over, then I search for bad videos to watch so it can bring my average back down. What I really hate is if I download a video that I expect to suck, but then it DOESN'T suck, so I have to go download at least 1 or 2 more sucky ones to cover it.
/obsessive compulsive maybe
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Postby BogoSort » Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:52 pm

Zarxrax wrote:I keep mine at 3.00 average. If I go over, then I search for bad videos to watch so it can bring my average back down. What I really hate is if I download a video that I expect to suck, but then it DOESN'T suck, so I have to go download at least 1 or 2 more sucky ones to cover it.
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Postby Wonka » Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:02 pm

My average is 2.70

Is that bad?
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Postby Flint the Dwarf » Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:11 pm

Nah, it just means you're an ass. :P

Mine is too high, I need to go back and re-score some videos.
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Postby Daio Kaji » Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:54 pm

flint_the_dwarf wrote:I need to go back and re-score some videos.

if only people said that about ops, i don't think anyone normal goes around saying 'i think it's time to do a bunch of ops cause i'm such a generous person'... but there's always someone, which is a good thing

btw, 'You have downloaded 598 local videos
Average Star Rating Given By You: 3.86
5 = 216
4 = 188
3 = 113
2 = 58
1 = 23'

talk about generous... i should stop dling so many good vids, D'oh!
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Postby downwithpants » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:19 pm

speaking of ops,
why should we keep the star average closer to 3/5 when the op average is closer to 8/10?
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Postby Phade » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:34 pm

Hey,

downwithpants wrote:speaking of ops,
why should we keep the star average closer to 3/5 when the op average is closer to 8/10?

Easy answer: People can't get away from the engrained system from school where 90 = A, 80 = B, 70 = C, 60 = D, Anything below = F. With this in mind, people don't score much 7 and below even though they are told that "average" means a 5.

This is one of the reasons why the star scale only goes to 5. I originally wanted to make it 3 (cool, ok, and suck), but I decided to spread it out just a little bit.

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Postby Zarxrax » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:37 pm

Also, given that good videos are downloaded much more than bad videos, it would probably make sense then overall, the star average should lean towards the higher numbers.
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Postby Phade » Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:54 pm

Hey,

Oh yeah, that's the other big reason: Since it requires effort to give an opinion, people generally only give an opinion when they really feel good about a video. People generally don't care about bad videos and therefore don't wan't to make the effort of telling the video creator that their videos isn't so great.

Since the star scale is manditory, if you download a not-so-great video, you have to give a rating for it. This should bring the overall average back down to the middle of the scale. However, good videos are downloaded more often than bad videos, so it's ok to have the actual average be a little higher than the score for average.

Perhaps to make the opinions scale better, the numbers should run from 7-16. Giving someone a 10 for thier video wouldn't seem so bad phychologically since you have to think about the scale as it is rather than the scale compared to other scales of measure even though a 10 would equal a 4 on the current scale. To throw the brain block off even further, the scale could go from 7-18 or 19.

But for now, it's kinda too late since the opinions data goes back a long time.

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Postby godix » Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:45 pm

5 = Far above average 27
4 = Above average 112
3 = Average 139
2 = Below average 40
1 = Far below average 3

Hmm, I see I'm weight a bit towards the high end. I need to go download some below average videos. Fortunately I happen to know where I can find 4000 DBZ videos...
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