Interesting article: Mac Vs. PC on Video Edting

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 10:53 pm

4 year old windows PCs are just percieved as pieces of junk, slow, and useless.

...because there's newer/quicker/faster/better/cheaper stuff out. ^_^

~klinky

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 10:56 pm

klinky wrote:
4 year old windows PCs are just percieved as pieces of junk, slow, and useless.
...because there's newer/quicker/faster/better/cheaper stuff out. ^_^

In addition to oftentimes having lots of hardware/software failure.

klinky · Post by **klinky** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:17 pm

What has failed on your computer? ^_^

I did tech support, we had about a 1000 computers. I remember about 2 or 3 going down.

I think we're moving away from the topic here. Apples are in no way more reliable then a PC. They practically use the same parts. Possibly you could have software conflicts or something go wrong, but guess what? Every version of Max OS has it. MacOS is known for it's crappy memory and network support previous to OS X.

I've used them, they're slower :O

Yes down time sucks, but Macs still have down time. You don't here alot about all the troubles with Macs because there aren't as many macs in use and there are no other vendors besides Apple.

Also time that's spent waiting 2x for a blur to render could be better put to use making creative work as well.

This has turned into a whole Apple vs PC debate. However, I can see your point and what you mean by it, but I think it's not a very good point and people shouldn't think of Macs as being the end all realiable solution because they simply are not. Macs still break, macs still have errors, macs run out of memory... :O

Yes yes...

~klinky

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:18 pm

The only hardware failure I've ever had is with my 20 gig WD hard drive, and it was still under warranty

alternatefutures · Post by **alternatefutures** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:19 pm

Well, seeing how Macs use the exact same hardware as a PC save for the processor, you can write off the hardware failure as the price you pay for going with the lowest bidder. For software failure, if you compare a PC running Win98 to a Mac running OS9, you're going to get similar software failure (I've seriously crashed Macs using their version of notepad for crying out loud). The only reason Macs are seen as having better support is because they have a tiny marketshare, so it's easy to handle the ammount of calls they get. Dell was in the same boat, then once they started dominating the home market they hit crtical mass and tech support started suffering.

And going back to video editing, software companies such as Discreet have figured out that four year old PCs AREN'T useless, and are actually offering Linux based solutions to harness the extra processing power generated by older PCs. Of course though, upgrading to a powerful new PC can be done for $900 bucks if you build it yourself, so you have to ask yourself if it's really worth salvaging that old PII you have sitting around.

And no, sorry, I've seen no evidence of Macs have superior hardware avialable. High-end soundcards tend to NOT have Mac support. The Sony universal DVD burner, the only one of its kind, doesn't have Mac support, and good luck finding a high end professional graphics card, such as the ATI FIRE series, for the Mac. Kind of ironic that the best Macs can hope for is a the latest gaming cards, even though even Apple devotees admit Apple's aren't as good at playing games as their PC counterparts.

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:25 pm

I just really enjoy going off on random tangents, but it's fun to do. I've seen hard drives just crash(fairly common), video cards just starting to display garbage as the computer heats up, processors deciding that 2+2 is actually 5, network cards that forget that they have the ability to operate in both 10mbit and 100mbit modes, computers that only manage to get power on every other time, etc. Macs do have a lot of these failures, however, they tend to put in higher quality base components, whereas most PC afficinados tend to put in high performance low cost(and consequently low reliability) items, like for example early athlons. If you ignore the motherboard and processor, Macs basically use the same components as PCs nowadays, Apple just has a tendancy to stuff their machines with the slightly more expensive components(and thus theortically more reliable).

jonmartensen · Post by **jonmartensen** » Sat Dec 14, 2002 11:28 pm

and less powerfull

no, really, they are less powerfull.