Star Trek

[Pwolf]

Was good. I enjoyed it very much.


Pwolf

[Coffee 54]

Good to know. Despite my initial hesitance, I'm really starting to look forward to this. Out of curiosity, I'm wondering how the villain stacks up against other recent baddies (Trek or otherwise)?

[Pwolf]

Good to know. Despite my initial hesitance, I'm really starting to look forward to this. Out of curiosity, I'm wondering how the villain stacks up against other recent baddies (Trek or otherwise)?

I dunno... for the most part, there is a clear reason for him being the protagonist other then that he is Romulan (should know that piece by now...). Even then, the movie, IMO, isn't really about Kirk/Spock/the rest of the crew fighting off the big bad Romulan... It's really about Kirk and Spock's friendship or lack of. The story itself doesn't need a big crazy super villain though. I think if they had made Nero more extreme, it would take away from the rest of the film.

Semi Spoiler:

Spoiler :

Nero is just there to progress the story along. But, without Nero, there would be no "reboot" of the franchise. You could say Nero is the one who creates the "new" Star Trek.

It seems a lot of people fear the movie wont live up to the original but, IMO, the movie is exactly that... it's about Kirk and Spock (mostly Kirk) coming to terms and living up to the legend they will one day create... it's their destiny.

Pwolf

[ngsilver]

Damn you! I want to see it opening night more and more now! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[JaddziaDax]

I'm anti-hyped?

but I will see it anyways.. not a fan of the director.

[Coffee 54]

I caught the early show yesterday morning, and I have to say; Not too bad. In fact, for the most part I really liked it. Solid cast and characters, decent story premise, and I think they've managed to effectively start to take the franchise in a new direction without alienate fans of the original. (Though they could have respected our intelligence about it a little more. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something along the lines of: "Whatever our lives would have been, it's all changed now." "So this is an alternate reality?" "Yes.")

My biggest gripe, however, it suffered from the same flaw quite a few Trek movies do. The villain is hellbent on revenge against the Federation, yet the Federation is depicted as a utopia of nicey-nice goodie-goodies, never capable of doing anything to warrant such hatred. As such, the bad guy's motive is always way too weak. Being unable to empathize with the villain tends to kill a big part of the enjoyment for me.

[Prodigi]

I liked it.

I found myself giggling quite a few times at some little sayings that they'd thrown in now and then as a throwback.

[Immorrel]

Just got back from the movie and it's a worthy addition to the series.

Spoiler :

I really enjoyed the fact that they are pushing the reset on the franchise with Nero and Old Spock. I'm kinda interested in how this new Star Trek is going to go, with Vulcan gone along with most of its population. Hopefully they keep it to movies and don't try to make a TV series out of it.

[Tsunami Jones]

I thought it was pretty awesome

[BurningLeaves]

As a Trekkie, yet an optimistic one I was actually looking forward to this. Once I saw it however I thought it was a complete travesty and Roddenberry would be rolling around in his grave right about now, but after careful consideration I've decided I actually liked it.

Spoiler :

The reason behind this was the whole time travel aspect, personally I always though the episodes of trek (any one of them take your pick) that dealt with time travel were always the weakest of the series. Also, whenever time travel was brought up it was done so in a more linear fashion, (Voyage home, last ep of Voyager etc) so seeing this as they presented it was almost like they were trying to say because they 'went back in time' therefor, anything that occurred in any previous (technically future) trek now did not occur because of this time travel deal. Which I personally thought was extremely pretentious and a slap in the face to trek fans everywhere.

After mulling it over a bit, I think instead of them trying to say 'All that stuff that happened in the other treks you can forget now haha nerd' they are trying to say an alternate dimension was created from the whole time rift thing, so everything that occurred in trek still happened (or is going to happen) just in another dimension. Taking it that way it's much easier to sink in, other dimensions were also part of the other treks (random ds9 eps etc) So looking at it that way I think it would be interesting to watch how things would play out in this alternate trek universe, and be slightly more exciting than just knowing everything thats going to happen. Or knowing that certain things can't happen because you already know the 'future'. Though it will make the fandom much harder to follow with this whole alternate universe to regular star trek. Though I can't really see this as star trek, it's comes off more someone else's take on star trek, because it is. So it'll be interesting to see if people accept this into the cannon or not.