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Post by Vax » Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:37 pm

Well I'm getting them both for 149.99. The price got me scared in the sense that it's not good. I'm hoping I'm not lucking out on this. Do you guys consider them a well-rounded version of this program or what? I've read reviews and they seem ok. I just want an AMV'ers point of view now. I have a feeling I would regret if I buy it.

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Post by Krisqo » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:41 am

The elements series of Premiere and Photoshop are the "lite" series. I used Photoshop Elements 2.0 for a while and it worked pretty good for some masking but it was a pain to make smooth edges and accurate cuts and all. I've never touched Premiere Elements, but from what I've read, it is stripped down and you have a limited amount of video/audio tracks you can use.

In essence, these programs are designed for people who want to touch up digital photos they have taken and smash up a home movie. Not people who want to do full fledged effect whore editing or serious Photoshopping work.
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Post by Vax » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:07 pm

Krisqo wrote:In essence, these programs are designed for people who want to touch up digital photos they have taken and smash up a home movie. Not people who want to do full fledged effect whore editing or serious Photoshopping work.
Seems like they were wrong about the number of tracks. You can have about 50+. But anyways, I bought it and I'm really confused. When I enter my video it's all pixelated ad other problems. I need some serious tutorials :|

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Post by GloryQuestor » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:00 am

Vax wrote:Seems like they were wrong about the number of tracks. You can have about 50+. But anyways, I bought it and I'm really confused. When I enter my video it's all pixelated ad other problems. I need some serious tutorials :|
Make sure your source video is IVTC'd before you start. This is especially important if you want to use direct AVISynth scripts with Premiere Elements. Don't worry too much if even your best source looks a bit interlaced or pixelated in Premiere's viewer--the viewer is more or less lying to you. It'll look better on the way out (depending on how you encode the export, of course).

My procedure with Premiere Elements has been to import either AVISynth script (with the latest Premiere AVISynth plugin) or Lagarith Lossless Codec footage -- trust nothing else to work as well as those two for source footage. For export, I always use MPEG-2 exporting so that I can then index the file to fix up the Aspect Ratio later in VDubMod. You can also use Lagarith Lossless Codec, providing you have the latest version of the codec, then create an AVISynth file in VDubMod to fix the AR. Either way works, but I prefer the former export method most.
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Post by Vax » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:56 am

When I go to the rendering it's only good export was uncompressed. :? At least that's what I see. If you need a screenshot i'll post one.
The bigger pain is actually trying to start to edit. Simple things I could of done in Vegas mess up massively on Premiere.

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Post by GloryQuestor » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:29 pm

Based on how it was done in the last version of Premiere Elements, all you have to do is go to the "Share" tab, then select "MPEG" for export to MPEG-2. For Lagarith, go to File -> Export -> Movie, select "Microsoft AVI" as the filetype, and select "Lagarith Lossless Codec" in the dropdown box under the "Video" options.

btw, go ahead and post a few screenshots with anything you don't understand, and I'll help you out best I can. :)
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Post by Vax » Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:42 pm

Well for one, crossfading. Everytime I try to crossfade it just pushes the clip :|. Second, keyframes. Well basically anything that would be helpful to a new editor, even though I'm not new :?
And another thing I forgot to mention. I was just testing the rendering on Premiere and 2 seconds estimated to 1 hour and 54 seconds of rendering with uncompressed. Is it supposed to take that long?

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Post by Krisqo » Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:20 am

over an hour to render two seconds? You replicating Skittles there? :shock:

Render time depends on a number of factors but mostly processor speed and ram. The more you have the better. For example. When I was running mu P4 2.8 GHz processor, an average export would take about 20-30 mins. My new Core 2 Duo 3.12 GHz takes just a little shorter. But it is shorter. From what I hear, Triple and even Quad processors are much faster, but I've never used one of those so I can't verify.

For keyframing. If it works like my versions of premiere, just go to where you can place the keyframes (effects control or something like that). Scrub to where you want the effect to start if you want to apply it over time, like a color fade to gray. If you see something like a stopwatch, click that to set the beginning keyframe. Scrub to where you want the effect to end. Change the necessary parameters (in this case hue and saturation). A second keyframe should be automatically applied.
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Re: Views on Adobe Premiere&Photoshop Elements 7

Post by AaronAMV » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:35 pm

Considering you have 512 mb of ram... I can see it taking that long.

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Re: Views on Adobe Premiere&Photoshop Elements 7

Post by Krisqo » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:10 pm

AaronAMV wrote:Considering you have 512 mb of ram... I can see it taking that long.

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Actually I think those are the programs minimal system requirements. :|
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