Does Remastering/Remaking an older amv affect originality?

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Does Remastering/Remaking an older amv affect originality?

Post by genestarwind21122 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:30 am

I'm curious if a person went back to fix up one of his/her older videos that had bad lipsync or timing in it, would this affect the videos originality because it is the second time being done. Or will it be rated the same as the first? I mean in my opinion if it was originally there idea and they remake it in a better version I think it should be the same not lower or higher to tell you the truth. What do you think?
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Post by SuperFusion » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:39 am

Depends on how many vids I saw using the same song, theme, and how well you executed it :o

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Post by Unlimited Rice » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:43 am

if it's to remaster or remake an old video.. then it shouldn't change the originality.

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Post by Pwolf » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:44 am

seems to... i got a few reviews for Every Breath You Take and the originaly was knocked down becuase it was a remake. pretty much the oppion of who views it.


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Post by genestarwind21122 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:05 am

I just noticed something : Shrine of the Goddess (original) 8.14 originality (36 ops) Shrine of the Goddess 2 (extended version) 8.27 originality (32 ops).

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:11 am

I'd make a difference between remaster and remake. Remaster is only a quality improvement, so it's still the same video and should be given the same originality. A remake is a new video, so it should get it's own judgement on originality. It depends now on the changes you've made. Mostly it should get a lower originality, since the idea already was done. But if for example the way you applied the effects is something new, it can get of course a higher originality.

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Post by bum » Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:47 am

TheUnlimited wrote:if it's to remaster or remake an old video.. then it shouldn't change the originality.
That prety much hit the spot. If all your doing is fixing up the video/audio quality and mabey changing a few scenes then its essencialy the same video, as the editing aspects and the concept have recieved only minor changes.
SuperFusion wrote:Depends on how many vids I saw using the same song, theme, and how well you executed it :o
Did you even bother to read the first post?

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Post by SuperFusion » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:31 am

bum wrote:
SuperFusion wrote:Depends on how many vids I saw using the same song, theme, and how well you executed it :o
Did you even bother to read the first post?
Yeah, I did. And I responded to his question as I would've saw fit to rate his video.

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Post by Knowname » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:23 pm

yeah... imo, it can make it better and on some but not many occasions worse. To me originality is not how often that song/ anime is used, it's functionality. If it was how often it was used you'd have to continually change it! A video that changed my life was a (currently unavailable) Linkin Park 'Crawling' video to Ah My Goddess. Regardless of how many times it's used the video made me beleive the crawling they talk about is an infatuation with a girl not the typical LBZ fare, the video wasn't great but what else are you to call it but original?? Another example is Chiikaboom's Air video to Evanescances overdone My immortal (check my post in recomended -> overdone for the link) It's just something that isn't common thought but is effective enough to become common. The effective arguement usually coincides with the 'overused' arguement as it's not effective if you've seen it before... but if the overused half (like just the overused song) is well thought out and combined with an anime that brings out your message nice and effectiveley, then I consider it original.

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Post by Knowname » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:30 pm

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:I'd make a difference between remaster and remake. Remaster is only a quality improvement, so it's still the same video and should be given the same originality. A remake is a new video, so it should get it's own judgement on originality. It depends now on the changes you've made. Mostly it should get a lower originality, since the idea already was done. But if for example the way you applied the effects is something new, it can get of course a higher originality.
on the issue of a remaster/ remake, like you sid, if there is some subtle effect change of maybe a new scene that translates the idea better/ worse then the originality changes... otherwise it should stay the same.

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