Ripping/Converting Situation

FrostSniper · Post by **FrostSniper** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:16 pm

I've recently ripped a dvd and slightly learned how to convert to a decent quality file for editing w/ adobe premiere. The problem I have is that when there's movement on the clip, you can see all these lines and digitized garble around what is moving. Is there another bit of coding I have to put in the avs document file to get that gone? Is there a way to get perfect video quality? Here's what I've done so far:
1.Ripped the DVD.
2.Used DVDtoAVI to convert the vobs to a project file.
3.Created the avs file using notepad will only the coding MPEG2Source("C:\Documents and Settings\Jacob\My Documents\bandb.d2v").
4.Create actual avi file with VirtualDub through the avs file.
5.Used TMPGEnc to convert that to an mgp file.
6.Now it can be loaded into adobe and look decent except for the liney stuff, which isn't all that noticable, but i want perfection!

Ok, I'm thinking there needs to be a lil more coding in the avs file to fix it, The reason why I can't load the avi file straight into adobe is because it comes in upsidedown and reallllllly messed up. Found out the TMPGEnc fixes that.

How do I get perfect quality? PLEASE BE SPECIFIC! Like what exactly do I have to do to get it to be right.

Kai Stromler · Post by **Kai Stromler** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:48 pm

If you've got all that out of the guides, you should find it pretty easy to play around with your options for teleciding at various stages. The lines you see jumping around are fields (as per spec, NSTC runs at 59.94something fields per second, which turns into 29.97frames per second); search for "telecide", "Inverse Telecine", or "IVTC" and you should get an idea of how to get rid of them, either by blending fields or by removing the frames inserted in the initial telecine process (the ones with the lines in them).

hth; if not someone with more knowledge about this area will post shortly.

--K

kmv · Post by **kmv** » Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:28 pm

If you want perfection then don't edit with MPEG1. Either use hufyuv or leave it in MPEG2. If disk space is an issue you can use the bait and switch method using MJPEG (as described in the guides) or frameserve the files (but that will be slow).

All Kai's comments on IVTC are still valid.

The guides are your friend.

FrostSniper · Post by **FrostSniper** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 9:13 am

I guess I could go back to the guide. However, i can only get so far w/o human interaction when trying to learn something. I'll try and use ur guys' advice. Thanks.

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:51 am

try this for your .avs file. It works for me. if you can't edit with this because you have a slow machine, then use Vdub to save it to something like picvideo and use the bait and switch method.

Loadplugin("C:\avsfilters\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
Loadplugin("C:\avsfilters\Decomb.dll")
MPEG2Source("D:\yourpath\vts_01_1.d2v")
Telecide()
Decimate(5)
AssumeFPS(24)
BicubicResize(740,480)
ConvertToRGB32()

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 2:54 am

Madbunny: Why are you resizing it to its native resolution?

bum · Post by **bum** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:10 am

just wondering, how hard exactly is it for premier users to get .vob files working normaly as they do with .avi ?

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 3:22 am

Zarxrax wrote:Madbunny: Why are you resizing it to its native resolution?

because I'm an ass. That's a generic .avs that I usually edit down for whatever project I'm on. It still works the way it is, I just left it there in case he wanted to change it to something else.
(that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!)

Bum wrote:just wondering, how hard exactly is it for premier users to get .vob files working normaly as they do with .avi ?

Not all that bad. I have a 1.5ghz p3 at home that's kinda laggy, so I use the picvideo method. At work I use either a 2.4 P3 or a 3ghz p4 and they both work just fine. When I tried the Vegas plug in for .vob editing, it was about the same degree of lagg-ness. So to answer your hidden question: probably about the same as with vegas, just more fiddlin.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:25 am

bum wrote:just wondering, how hard exactly is it for premier users to get .vob files working normaly as they do with .avi ?

I'm using Premiere Pro on an Athlon XP 2000+ machine with 512 MB of RAM and Windows XP Home, and I always make a separate AVS script for each episode, and it works fine for me. I mean, there's some lag, but not much.

bum · Post by **bum** » Sun Feb 15, 2004 9:46 pm

hmmm, mabey some day all people will just stop converting their source vids to avi alltogeather and just work with .vob's