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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Zeonic Freak » Wed May 27, 2020 5:13 pm

Well with a clause like "in any way" how can someone NOT think that their work will appear on a DVD by the con and they profit from it while the artist gets nothing? There's nothing in that clause saying they won't do that.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Tarage » Wed May 27, 2020 5:31 pm

Then don't enter.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by twigglyfiggly » Wed May 27, 2020 6:01 pm

Tarage wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 5:31 pm
Then don't enter.
You shouldn’t have to not enter. You can’t stave criticism by saying that either. What they should do is hold themselves accountable with reasonable rules and being mindful enough not to make any mistakes, rather than hold the entrants accountable with wild rules just to save themselves if they do something dumb.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by sasukechanx » Wed May 27, 2020 6:25 pm

I think that statement above is vague. Using phrases such as "in any way" and "usages that may be unrelated to the event" should be more specific such as "under Saboten Con/Saboten Con AMV events and future events" so it narrows it down having permission to use submitted AMVs solely for the contest and premiering submitted AMVs for other panels at the con/future convention events. Saying "any way" and "unrelated to the event" sounds like they are trying to get permission to use your video that is irrelevant to the con itself and for other ownership uses which is indeed, extreme in this case.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Rider4Z » Thu May 28, 2020 11:50 am

Zeonic Freak wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 5:13 pm
Well with a clause like "in any way" how can someone NOT think that their work will appear on a DVD by the con and they profit from it while the artist gets nothing? There's nothing in that clause saying they won't do that.
Most conventions know better than that by now. If they produced and obtained any monetary value over DVDs full of copyrighted material they’d have bigger people to worry about than the editors.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Teriyaki777 » Thu May 28, 2020 2:52 pm

Can't Decide Which Anime Con To Attend Saboten Con (Phoenix, AZ) OR Sac Summer Con (Sacramento, CA), in Sac Summer you can enter in 5 amvs so thats have chances to win and they place 1st - 3rd also win money depending on what place you get.... VS Saboten Con you dont you onliy get 1 chance.... but its the money that gets me thinking which one i should attend since i already live in AZ..... Please someone give me some feedback what i should do....

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Rider4Z » Thu May 28, 2020 3:00 pm

Teriyaki777 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:52 pm
Can't Decide Which Anime Con To Attend Saboten Con (Phoenix, AZ) OR Sac Summer Con (Sacramento, CA), in Sac Summer you can enter in 5 amvs so thats have chances to win and they place 1st - 3rd also win money depending on what place you get.... VS Saboten Con you dont you onliy get 1 chance.... but its the money that gets me thinking which one i should attend since i already live in AZ..... Please someone give me some feedback what i should do....
You should ask that in the convention section instead of a contest thread.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by ProjectTwinsAMV » Fri May 29, 2020 7:37 am

twigglyfiggly wrote:
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"You grant us unconditional, irrevocable, and eternal permission to use your submission(s) in any way, which includes (but is not limited to) copying, sharing, and exhibiting, as well as any purposes and usages that may be unrelated to this event."

Isn't that a bit excessive?
All it is is basically plagiarism. If you copy or use someones videos as your own thats unconditional. Also if someone also used like some clips of their work and uses on your own video, same thing. Thats all basically it. I dont mind using dvd or blu ray just as long theres no corner trademark.
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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Teriyaki777 » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:06 am

Rider4Z wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:00 pm
Teriyaki777 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:52 pm
Can't Decide Which Anime Con To Attend Saboten Con (Phoenix, AZ) OR Sac Summer Con (Sacramento, CA), in Sac Summer you can enter in 5 amvs so thats have chances to win and they place 1st - 3rd also win money depending on what place you get.... VS Saboten Con you dont you onliy get 1 chance.... but its the money that gets me thinking which one i should attend since i already live in AZ..... Please someone give me some feedback what i should do....
You should ask that in the convention section instead of a contest thread.
But i want your guy's opinion...

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Rider4Z » Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:14 am

Since you're asking on the Saboten contest thread and the coordinator working very hard to put this contest together will see you debating whether to attend their contest or not I'm going to recommend you go to Saboten.

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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by ProjectTwinsAMV » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:32 pm

Teriyaki777 wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:06 am
Rider4Z wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 3:00 pm
Teriyaki777 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:52 pm
Can't Decide Which Anime Con To Attend Saboten Con (Phoenix, AZ) OR Sac Summer Con (Sacramento, CA), in Sac Summer you can enter in 5 amvs so thats have chances to win and they place 1st - 3rd also win money depending on what place you get.... VS Saboten Con you dont you onliy get 1 chance.... but its the money that gets me thinking which one i should attend since i already live in AZ..... Please someone give me some feedback what i should do....
You should ask that in the convention section instead of a contest thread.
But i want your guy's opinion...
There is a Saboten Con group page on FB you can ask all that. Just letting you know.
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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by ProjectTwinsAMV » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:06 pm

If anyone is interested in make us an Intro for the competition, please PM us. I know its kinda later to be asking but its just been busy with us here. Xophilarus Has been doing our intros the past 2 years and I thank you for that. As far as the convention itself, there still no news about it canceling yet or anything. Will keep you posted if anything happens, in the mean time keep sending your videos!
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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Silent Hero Studios » Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:51 pm

You did receive my entries for Saboten this year, right?
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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by ProjectTwinsAMV » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:01 pm

Silent Hero Studios wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:51 pm
You did receive my entries for Saboten this year, right?
Yes of course :)
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Re: Saboten Con 2020 AMV Competition - OPEN

Post by Silent Hero Studios » Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:29 pm

Thx
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