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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by gotenks794 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:11 pm

dakotasapphire wrote: Well, I don't understand why something needs a concept if hardly anyone looks for a concept. Its something we aren't born with. Most people are Illiterate and aren't that great with finding the concept of anything.
What are you smoking?
dakotasapphire wrote: So, if your beat syncs, your effects and transitions work, and your clips match the song's mood and lyrics(or no lyrics if its an instrumental) than there really doesn't need to be a concept. It just has to be entertaining. :nose:
That's more or less a concept.
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by Kariudo » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:55 pm

dakotasapphire wrote:
Kariudo wrote:The point of having a concept (to me) is to have a general idea/theme around which the rest of the amv is structured...most concepts aren't really tied to any specific sync at all imo. A concept makes it more than just a random collection of clips that anyone could throw together.

I believe that having the structure that a concept can bring helps in making amvs feel more polished/better executed.
Well, I don't understand why something needs a concept if hardly anyone looks for a concept. Its something we aren't born with. Most people are Illiterate and aren't that great with finding the concept of anything.
Think of it like this...
Two people are building a chair. They both have the same amount of wood, same tools, etc..., and they both are reasonably skilled handymen.
One person has instructions, and the other doesn't.
More times than not, the chair from the guy with instructions is going to look better than the chair from the guy without instructions...and the guy with the instructions is probably going to get the chair done faster as well (or have more time to add embellishments).

It doesn't really matter if Joe Schmo looking at the chair can understand the instructions or not, the chair made by the guy with instructions will still look nicer. At the same time, a master chairsmith will be able to look at the instructions, look at the chair, and be able to see why the instructions make the chair look nicer and how the sequence of steps used in its construction contribute to its various chair-like features
dakotasapphire wrote:So, if your beat syncs, your effects and transitions work, and your clips match the song's mood and lyrics(or no lyrics if its an instrumental) than there really doesn't need to be a concept. It just has to be entertaining. :nose:
I generally believe that, everything else equal, a video made with a concept in mind will be more entertaining than a video without a concept.
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by sportsgirl1391 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:38 pm

-I got a mac and now using Final Cut Studio and Adobe Creative suit 5 and i still dont know how to mask half way decent masks.
-I am learning about codecs. I feel like a noob when it comes to that.
-finally learned prores is better than lossless. X] at least for me.
-use to try convert mkv...yeah you know how well that works X]

Got more but to lazy to type it all. lol.
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by JaddziaDax » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:16 pm

still lyric is the most used concept.

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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by Ikore » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:32 pm

actually a monkey edited all of my vid, I paid bananas.
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by DriftRoot » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:19 pm

I must say I am somewhat shocked by the many admissions of Photoshop fear. Is my pen tool guide scaring people more than it's helping? Do I need to publish my entire masking in Photoshop tutorial...or would that make it worse? Help me, HELP you. HELP me, help you! *waves arms like Tom Cruise* Help ME, help YOU!

On to my AMV Flaws! Because we all love to talk about ourselves...
I SUCK AT EDITING. Who spends 30 hours fussing with 1.3 seconds of footage? A BAD EDITOR. Who spends 100 hours on a excruciatingly simplistic 2-minute AMV with NO special effects and STILL messes up the AR?! A REALLY BAD EDITOR! Who spends 42 hours on a plain old 30-second AMV Hell clip that doesn't come out right? A HORRIFICALLY BAD EDITOR!! Who has almost more success complaining about how bad they are at editing than actually creating AMVs? That would be me.

Seriously, though, I can't think I any flaws I haven't already bemoaned 50 times over in my journal. That would be a big flaw in itself, but it's not like it's a big secret or something. :|
Kariudo wrote:Think of it like this...
Two people are building a chair. They both have the same amount of wood, same tools, etc..., and they both are reasonably skilled handymen. One person has instructions, and the other doesn't. More times than not, the chair from the guy with instructions is going to look better than the chair from the guy without instructions...and the guy with the instructions is probably going to get the chair done faster as well (or have more time to add embellishments).
Concept is vital, what constitutes a good concept is up for debate. Is an "effects showcase" a concept? If so, does it trump the concepts of "revenge" or "self-sacrifice?" How about this: two people are building a set of stairs. One person actually knows and cares about where the stairs will lead to and from and plans to install them accordingly, the other person just wants to build a generic set of solid stairs to prove that they can. Yeah, both sets of stairs start out low and end up high, but only one of them actually GOES somewhere and serves a purpose beyond its mere constructed existence.
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by TritioAFB » Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:17 am

I let my apprentice edit from time to time part of my betas
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by JaddziaDax » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:36 am

Speaking of all the chair and stair building.

Most of the time I DONT HAVE A PLAN! O.o but I still try to edit the ending first if I can O.o I just go with my gut, maybe that's why my videos "suck"

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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by Nya-chan Production » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:53 am

JaddziaDax wrote:Speaking of all the chair and stair building.

Most of the time I DONT HAVE A PLAN! O.o but I still try to edit the ending first if I can O.o I just go with my gut, maybe that's why my videos "suck"
If you know how it should end, then you have a concept. "Concept" doesn't mean that you should have the whole video planned to the core, that's something completely different ^^;;;

And your videos don't suck, don't bash yourself ;x
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Re: AMV flaws you want to admit

Post by imp » Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:40 am

I recognized some of the already mentioned flaws but I think my biggest flaw is the following one:
DriftRoot wrote:Who spends 30 hours fussing with 1.3 seconds of footage? A BAD EDITOR.
some other flaws:
- bad or no concepts at all.
- knowing I could make some specific effects easy but still doing it the harder / more time consuming way.
- getting distracted too easily (that's why I'm now here and not working on my AMV...)

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