AWA 2011 - Contest deadlines (all past)

[Kireblue]

Has anyone received a confirmation yet? I uploaded my video via ftp 2 weeks ago, but my entry page still says that it's pending.

[Snowcrash]

(...)MPEG-2 as an archive format is going away(...)

*tears of joy*

Double tears of Joy

Anyway I am in for the Pro contest this year

[Cenit]

Is 720p 48fps alright for AWA Pro to send in?

You know that Peter Jackson is filming the Hobbit in 2*24fps (aka 48 fps) so based on that its a offical framerate i edited my AMV in 48 fps. Is it ok to send a AMV to AWA Pro with 48 fps framerate? What are my options if this is not allowed? Should i go for 24 fps instead?

[l33tmeatwad]

Is 720p 48fps alright for AWA Pro to send in?

You know that Peter Jackson is filming the Hobbit in 2*24fps (aka 48 fps) so based on that its a offical framerate i edited my AMV in 48 fps. Is it ok to send a AMV to AWA Pro with 48 fps framerate? What are my options if this is not allowed? Should i go for 24 fps instead?

Just gonna comment, 48fps is not a "standard" at this time, they are simply doing that for the sake of the film being done in 3D. The higher framerate is being used to help the 3D (and reduce certain flaws that show with low frame rates). Right now the current standards are 24, 25, 30, 50, and 60. I don't see 48 becoming a standard format since it is not supported by the current media distribution (Blu-ray) or TV broadcasts. That said, 48fps could become a new standard in the future since most newer TV sets are starting to go with 240Hz refresh or higher, so it won't affect the quality of playback (except on the "old" 120Hz sets, lol).

[outlawed]

Is 720p 48fps alright for AWA Pro to send in? You know that Peter Jackson is filming the Hobbit in 2*24fps (aka 48 fps) so based on that its a offical framerate i edited my AMV in 48 fps. Is it ok to send a AMV to AWA Pro with 48 fps framerate? What are my options if this is not allowed? Should i go for 24 fps instead?

From my understanding the AMV room will play off computer so fps shouldn't be an issue. However there will be a showing in main events of the winners I would imagine like in past years. This will probably require staff to make a DVD version of all the winners. If that's how they do it then it then staff have to convert your video's FPS to 29.97 or 23.976 with pulldown flag. While I'm confident the staff at AWA can convert from that FPS the result may look different from what you expect and with so many entries to process they can only spend so much time doing it. As an outsider and general member of the AMV community my advice to everyone is to already have a secondary version prepared when using frame rates that do not match NTSC standard. It can save a lot of headaches down the road and will allow you to have more control over that conversion process that many conventions need to do.

Personally I'm quite curious why you are using 48 fps. Generally we are using 23.976/24 or 29.97 because that's what our source anime is or because of NTSC display needs. Folks going 60 fps are usually because the majority of the video is CG effects or 3D renders.

As far as the Hobbit here's a quote attributed to Peter Jackson
"Converting a film shot at 48 fps down to 24 fps is not a hugely difficult process, but it requires testing to achieve the best results. Some of this involves digital processes during post-production. We are also shooting the film a slightly different way, which is a question several of you asked. Normally you shoot a movie with a 180-degree shutter angle. Changing the shutter angle affects the amount of motion blur captured during movement. Reducing the shutter angle gives you the stroby (or jerky) “Saving Private Ryan” look. However, we’re going the other way, shooting at 48 fps with a 270 degree shutter angle. This gives the 48 fps a lovely silky look, and creates a very pleasing look at 24 fps as well. In fact, our DP, Andrew Lesnie, and I prefer the look of 24 fps when it comes from a 48 fps master."

[jingoro]

Is 720p 48fps alright for AWA Pro to send in? You know that Peter Jackson is filming the Hobbit in 2*24fps (aka 48 fps) so based on that its a offical framerate i edited my AMV in 48 fps. Is it ok to send a AMV to AWA Pro with 48 fps framerate? What are my options if this is not allowed? Should i go for 24 fps instead?

I strongly recommend sending a copy of your video at one of the standard consumer HD resolutions and frame rates (480P, 720P, 1080P at 30 or 24 FPS). You may also send an additional file of whatever awesomeness you've been able to construct, and I shall applaud you if it works, but be aware that among all of VAT staff we have only one display larger than 1080P (2560x1440 16:9 27" iMac). Video playback is problematic enough without throwing high frame rates at us.

Peter Jackson has a bigger budget than Daric Jackson, and The Video Art Track and AWA just aren't ready for RED Digital Cinema yet. We'll gladly accept such hardware donations, of course.

[Cenit]

No one shall applaud me and i'm not doing it for the attention, if thats what you are implying. I used to edit my videos in 60 fps since 2009 and was always converting them to AWA rules. Niotex brought me to the idea of editing with 48 fps instead of 60fps by doing some demo videos. Results were it still looks very fluent but from a editors point without the need to upspeed the footage that much. By saving those 12 frames per second (compared to 60fps) you get a more natural look compared to upspeed stuff to 60. Also when doing fast action sequences you still have enough frames to make it look enjoyable. I hope that justifies my decision.

By the way i don't think my question was THAT retarded to provoke an asshole reaction like yours jingoro. Get a grip, man!

Anyway since your hardware is limited and you honestly answered my question in the end i will submit my entry at 24.00 fps.

[jingoro]

By the way i don't think my question was THAT retarded to provoke an asshole reaction like yours jingoro. Get a grip, man!

Woah! What did I say?! I thought I was providing the best answer I could given our technical limitations when screening. I'd love to show your work off at 42fps or 60fps or anything if I only could!! You have always created exceptional works, and we've been privileged to have you submitting to our contests.

Please accept my apologies, and as we have never had a technical issue with anything you've submitted, please continue doing what you're doing.

[MisterFurious]

With the deadline less than a week away, I'm a little concerned, myself. The upload site still shows my video as pending, and I e-mailed my completed entry form two weeks ago, but the upload site still says "not received."

[jingoro]

Last I heard, VAT Technical was going to move the deadline. Please stay tuned.