Musing on the community by OtakuGray

[gotegenks]

You are not your video. You are not the anime you like. You are not the program you use. You are not the contents of your rig, and you are not your fucking HDD

[kickass331]

You are not your video. You are not the anime you like. You are not the program you use. You are not the contents of your rig, and you are not your fucking HDD

i know. i would have been cool if i was darker than black or sony vegas

[JaddziaDax]

While I think the rant makes some interesting points, I don't think that the rant goes to inform any newbies about the community. It just gives an opinion about all the bad stuff in the community, and then mislabels people. (Which is why people have issues about being labeled).

It also contradicts itself when it comes to raw editing vs effect editing. Which are we to believe is better? from his rant it seems that both are bad. You aren't a good editor unless you use effects, but if you don't start out with learning raw editing then you aren't good either. But if you stay with raw editing then you are lazy and a bad editor.

Never mind the fact that maybe a video shouldn't have effects, or they don't need them, because effects would just damage the video more than enhance it, or the fact that effects may improve the video and give it a flavor that otherwise wouldn't exist. Cause it doesn't matter weather or not the effects work in the video, its all about the laziness of the editor.

Going to the original rant (not the edited one), who are you to say how old is too old to enjoy a video game. I'm way too old for the intended demographic for some video games, yet I still play and enjoy them. Pokemon is definitely one of them. In fact, I never played Pokemon until I was well into my 20s. Pokemon didn't even hit the US until my senior year in high school. The kiddies on LBP tell me I'm too old for it all the time, but that doesn't stop me from playing it. Next you will be telling me that I'm too old for Final Fantasy because I'm nearing on 30 and that's a game for teenagers to early 20s.

Also you need to stop talking for Chiikaboom.
Also you leaving the org due to differing opinions is not the same as her, so please don't compare yourself to a situation you don't know much about.

[ZephyrStar]

ohayguise what's going on in this thread?

Newbies to the .org often play the "OMG I AM GREAT EDITOR FROM UTUBECHECK ME OUT" card. This is generally seen as obnoxious, as it happens often and nine times out of ten, nothing of value is presented. The org also has members who edit for a living or hold themselves to very high standards creatively. So while we can constructively critique each other, that comes off as bullying to those who don't understand our intentions. As a result, they won't listen. This eventually leads to resentment from both parties, thus a hostile attitude by some in the .org community towards the endless youtube swarm, and the percieved hostility of the .org by said endless swarm.

In the anime fandom, the situation is almost exactly the same. Anime veterans with years of watching experience get told by someone who has only seen Naruto and who throws around pidgeon Japanese that it is the baddest ass anime in all of existence. Leading to resentment and distaste by both parties. Can we just be content to be elitists and have an extensive knowledge base about a subject which nobody really even cares about? Or an obnoxious fan who will look back on their actions ten years later and be ashamed to be alive? Karma's a bitch like that.

(in summation, just make what you want)

[Mastamind]

The irony of it is that if a newbie happens upon this thread, they're very likely to agree with OtakuGray's stereotype that the org is mainly a bunch of elitist trolls.

[Enigma]

The irony of it is that if a newbie happens upon this thread, they're very likely to agree with OtakuGray's stereotype that the org is mainly a bunch of elitist trolls.

Isn't that THE stereotype of the org?

[Mastamind]

Isn't that THE stereotype of the org?

Isn't trolling OtakuGray debating that the main topic of this thread?

[CodeZTM]

To be honest... I've only noticed elitism on very few occasions since I've been here, and usually it all happens at the same time at the VCA's. And everyone knows its all Russians Europeans a-m-v.org forum user non-org forum voters Americans Candians everyone's fault that it happens.

I do agree that we need a friendlier place for them to introduce themselves [Yes. I know. Lurking is great. I encourage lurking. I am the advocate of lurking. I AM LURKING behind you. You've mentioned this already. Still, how many of us have posted stupid shit when we first got here, and how many of us would have liked a little help getting used to everything and having a place where we can get questions answered?]

If a newcomer comes into the forum with the "I'd like to know how to improve", then they're more likely to get responses from people. It's also important to remember to take the responses well, and not go batshit insane when somebody says there's interlacing in your video or that black fades me make cry. O_o

It's kind of like the rules of the internet, and not just a-m-v.org. You post something useful, you get a useful comment back. If you're polite, you'll be treated [usually] with politeness back. You post insulting shit, you get insulting shit back. Results may vary.

[kickass331]

basically, the org is an internet forum with the normal kinds of forum members. 0~0

[godix]

Now it is from my experience that most of the people here don't sugar coat things. They may even come off as jerks at times, though it seems to me it's unintentional.

Unintentional? It takes effort to be this much of a jerk. In fact I'm the best jerk ever! But do you guys care? Nooo. You just dismissing all the hard work I put into this. Oh wah. It isn't perfect quality because I'm not a fucking perfectionist. I'm SO sorry. Next time I'll just scrap all text and let you guess WTF was going on. You guys take this hobby too seriously. My normal followers on youtube LAUGH at this. I don't want that reaction, I want people to be angry or sad. You guys never say anything about me being a jerk except pointless details that everyone already knew. Understand that I don't go for quality, I am more focused on the idea and getting it from my head to my computer screen. Go get lives people.



By the way, since I just copied and pasted half a dozen of his statements, then quickly corrected some of the mistakes, from his announcement thread, I now have even *MORE* respect for the poor editor of the OP