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Post by jonmartensen » Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:10 pm

You're argueing with the wrong fellow, sixstop. SSJV0609 isn't one of the people that like to base their arguments or decisions on what they consider to be a likeness in apperance between the President and a monkey. He trys to base his decisions off of information, and place blame where it belongs (meaning, not just "the other party")

People like to classify where other people lie on the liberal/conservative line, but there are a fair number of people who aren't on the line. It is not because they are so far off to the left or the right of it, but because the line is trivial and they can think beyond it.
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Post by kthulhu » Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:12 pm

Well that, or they're all over the place.
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Post by jonmartensen » Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:15 pm

The idea is that the classifying itself is a crappy route, not that there are four extremes instead of two (plane vs line). At least bust out with a Dodecahedron if you're going to go that route.
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Post by jonmartensen » Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:19 pm

/me kicks Kthulhu for crashing my train of thought
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Post by Lyrs » Tue Jul 22, 2003 12:18 am

Let's not forget that a group of shiat's, yes i spelled wrong, is raising an army and calling the US and the recently established council infidel's.

but of course that isn't important, the important thing is they are raising an army and want to establish an Islamic fundementalist state. the army of course if gathering force and will likely cause more harm to Us and coalition forces in Irag. the consequences of supressing that army would be more gueriilla attacks.

Time to pay the bills, ladies and gentlemen.

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Post by madmallard » Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:43 am

you're forgetting the reason the classification exists in the first place. PEOPLE THINK DIFFERENTLY. And when comparing the differences it is determined that some differences come into direct conflict with one another.

People who claim to be 'outside' a party boundary, or whatever, are usually ill educated on where the views they have actually fall, or (the more oft true) dont have enough fortitude to stick to an ideals set and settle into a non-commital state that makes no development.

people whove stated to me that they are not republican, democrat, or anything else have either never had to think really hard on an issue, preferring to remain apathetic and bland enough to jump to whatever side the bandwagon is on, or haven't bothered to compare notes with what they DO care about to realise that there are like-minded groups.

If you've read any of my posts ever, or even in just this thread, you see that I may swing a little more to the conservative side, but i haven't been afraid to call Republican Politicians goof ups anymore than i have Democrats. Its never a question of "the other party" with me. It just that the glaringly stupid stand out more than those who are just stupid
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Post by Lyrs » Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:51 am

bush is a terrorist. one of the many things you here.
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Post by jonmartensen » Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:17 am

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Post by klinky » Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:50 am

The current government sucks. The president is a dumbass.

The whole thing is meant to supress people into accepting everything the .gov says. It's helping corporations out big time though.

Cheney has so many little fuckin' tie-ins with shady finacial practices. Sheesh.

Wolfiwitz and his ideals and his views. Oh they're grand.

Ashcroft and the lovely Patriot Act ^_^ mmm hmmm..

Bush is a monkey puppet of a president.

Let's not forget that there is ALWAYS TERRAR. WEST NILE! OH KNOWS WEST NILE! NOW ANTHRAX! SARS NOW, WEST NILE AGAIN, KILLAR FLU IS NEXt!

What color of the TerRRAr bar are we this week ? Orange ? Blue Red? pink?

MMMM also gotta love those laws on digital media & file sharing.

Yum... Let's tack on some more pointless wars that will never be one.

WE can have

The War on Drugs
The War on Terror
The War on Filesharing

Sounds like a plan. Companies happy, people are sedated and afraid to leave their house('cept for work of course). Yes. That sounds ideal.


And sixstop Bush didn't get "bad inteligence". The inteligence basically says "doubtful that he has biological weapons". If he really wanted to get rid of the weapons or rather find them, they should have done a dual inspection with the UN :\ Really. They were after the oil and power. Now that they have opened up the middle-east, they can go after Iran & Syria next and do two things A) GETS THE OIL B) Killz the islamic infidels that go against their christian beliefs. Really, it's starting to seem like a holly war almost.

Also since the start of the war atleast 1 US soldier has died every 26hrs.


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Post by SSJVegita0609 » Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:55 am

sixstop wrote: people whove stated to me that they are not republican, democrat, or anything else have either never had to think really hard on an issue, preferring to remain apathetic and bland enough to jump to whatever side the bandwagon is on, or haven't bothered to compare notes with what they DO care about to realise that there are like-minded groups.
My what a sweeping generalization... Juts because I don't affiliate myself with any particular party (mainly because I think that the basis behind having political party in a democracy is stupid), doesn't mean I don't think about matters of governmental or political nature. In fact it means quite the opposite, because I have an unbiased view I can't fall back to the founding beliefs of any one party and thus have to create my own beliefs for every situation.
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