Official "This part of the guide SUCKS!" thread, 2

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:53 pm

How would people feel about completely removing the stuff about "bait-and-switch" editing? I'm going to be reorganizing some stuff, and killing that would let me make things cleaner and more organized.

Does anyone actually use this method for editing?

I personally don't like it for a number of reasons, one being that its quite dangerous and finicky.

In addition, the other methods are better than ever these days. With a codec like Lagarith, it only take around 4gb of space to store an entire anime episode losslessly. Trim off the opening and endings and you might be looking at something more like 3-3.5gb per episode.

Editing from AVS files is faster than every with some new techniques I'm including in the guide. It will be nearly twice as fast as the old method.

Is there really still a place for that old bait and switch method?

Fall_Child42 · Post by **Fall_Child42** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:59 pm

I agree.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:15 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Does anyone actually use this method for editing?

Yes.

Not myself, but.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:33 pm

Zarxrax wrote:How would people feel about completely removing the stuff about "bait-and-switch" editing? I'm going to be reorganizing some stuff, and killing that would let me make things cleaner and more organized.

Does anyone actually use this method for editing?

If using a basic AVS script with just using basic settings like deinterlacing methods and fps adjustments.. then when ready to export the video... change the script to premade ones with settings that really clean up the footage.. is considered "bait-and-switch", then I'd say no, don't get rid of it. I remake fake avis with Vfapi when I'm about ready to make the video for distrobution by swapping the basic setting AVS script for editing to a more advance script that is not so good for editing. So if this is what is considered "bait-and-switch" then please don't get rid of it for it is very helpful IMO if you know what you're doing.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:04 pm

No, I was referring to the process of replacing the avs files with low quality mjpeg files.

I guess I'll keep it in there.

Willen · Post by **Willen** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:01 am

Since this came up here:

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=65156

I think that a few more pictures in the Aspect Ratio section would greatly help. Since anime doesn't try (sometimes on purpose) to keep shapes of objects correct most of the time, it is hard for people to realize that some of the footage they are watching is in the wrong aspect ratio. The Utena images on the EADFAG section that deals with Anamorphic Widescreen is somewhat useful for dealing with those situations, but lately I've seem more AMVs with 4:3 footage released in DivX/XviD .avi that are 720 x 480 so they have no AR flags and don't display properly. I think that having images to reference would greatly improve understanding of ARs and why DVD footage needs to be resized for distro formats.

Orwell · Post by **Orwell** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:00 pm

I'd like to see scintilla's guide for encoding to mpeg for cons either in the links section, or in the guide itself. I found it very useful after trying to get TMPEGEnc to encode in 29.97 properly.

More information on various filters available in avisynth, possibly another place for some of the information from AMVWiki.

The only other thing I really found lacking in the guides was clear simple navigation when I first used it, and there was never a way to return to the homepage.

Jnzk · Post by **Jnzk** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:09 am

Zarxrax wrote:Does anyone actually use this method for editing?

I do...

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:12 pm

Orwell wrote:The only other thing I really found lacking in the guides was clear simple navigation when I first used it, and there was never a way to return to the homepage.

Can you elaborate on this? There is a link at the bottom of each page that takes you back to the index of the guide.

JCD · Post by **JCD** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:18 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Zero1 has been writing a great guide on it, so I will probably use that. I'm not sure if I will put it directly in the guide though, or make it an off-site link.

True, but however, I myself found CLI encoding very complicated and really time-consuming so I'd love to see a small extension of how to use meGUI as that will be way easier to explain for people new to this. Especially now since it also supports audio encoding, I don't see anything wrong with it.

Gotta get more people into h264 :D