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[emp|typ|athetic]

youre all wrong.
a person is but a product of his environment. and as such his actions are derived solely from his background, his upbringing, and every single exprience cocious or subconcious he had ever undergone. wait, no. this goes even further: i strongly believe in the domino theory thing or whatever its called (was it chaos theory..? or was chaos the opposite of it.. nevermind). all events are triggered by previous events, even the smallest most insignificant things, like thermal changes in the atmosphere or the carbon level in the whatnot.. it all matters, and may very much effect wether youll be making an EVA AMV tomorrow, or giving it up for a pigfarming chareer.. so whether you are aware of the past or not, you still exist withing the boundries of time, in which case the past ownz your ass

so in a sense all events are very much predetermined. although in another sense you still have free will and the right to choose. its just that your choices are part of the 'time stream' thing.
you can chose not to chose but then youll probably just die of thurst, or get an ulcer, which would also be predetermined..

the reason im saying all this (repetitive, icoherent) stuff is because i know there are alot of people out there who believe in some 'higher forces' that will 'deliver them to salvation if only they live a clean and richeous life'.. and they are safe of all harm because they do no wrong and if anything bad happens to them or their families its because 'god works in mistirious ways' and 'theres a lesson i this' ..
bullshit..


boy i hope you didnt just read all this.. cause if you did, man thats too bad. you couldve spent that time getting a laid or something..

You pose a great truth, environment does affect the individual, but contrary to your beliefs, this is not the whole of a person. The human brain is not controlled by its surroundings, it merely uses them as references in new situations. This does not mean that your natural reflexes cannot be changed if you still exist in the same environment, and that alone proves that the individual is NOT so easily defined, nor is a thinking individual so easily calculated. Humans are prone to abnormal behavior, it's a simple fact.

my point is i think even the abnormalities are precalculated.
the universe is a pretty fucking complex mofo. what may seem as an unexpected course of action to you, could very well be just a series of plain nerve pulses and hormonal sucretions in the 'great scheme of things' or something like that..

[KhayotiK]

youre all wrong.
a person is but a product of his environment. and as such his actions are derived solely from his background, his upbringing, and every single exprience cocious or subconcious he had ever undergone. wait, no. this goes even further: i strongly believe in the domino theory thing or whatever its called (was it chaos theory..? or was chaos the opposite of it.. nevermind). all events are triggered by previous events, even the smallest most insignificant things, like thermal changes in the atmosphere or the carbon level in the whatnot.. it all matters, and may very much effect wether youll be making an EVA AMV tomorrow, or giving it up for a pigfarming chareer.. so whether you are aware of the past or not, you still exist withing the boundries of time, in which case the past ownz your ass

so in a sense all events are very much predetermined. although in another sense you still have free will and the right to choose. its just that your choices are part of the 'time stream' thing.
you can chose not to chose but then youll probably just die of thurst, or get an ulcer, which would also be predetermined..

the reason im saying all this (repetitive, icoherent) stuff is because i know there are alot of people out there who believe in some 'higher forces' that will 'deliver them to salvation if only they live a clean and richeous life'.. and they are safe of all harm because they do no wrong and if anything bad happens to them or their families its because 'god works in mistirious ways' and 'theres a lesson i this' ..
bullshit..


boy i hope you didnt just read all this.. cause if you did, man thats too bad. you couldve spent that time getting a laid or something..

You pose a great truth, environment does affect the individual, but contrary to your beliefs, this is not the whole of a person. The human brain is not controlled by its surroundings, it merely uses them as references in new situations. This does not mean that your natural reflexes cannot be changed if you still exist in the same environment, and that alone proves that the individual is NOT so easily defined, nor is a thinking individual so easily calculated. Humans are prone to abnormal behavior, it's a simple fact.

my point is i think even the abnormalities are precalculated.
the universe is a pretty fucking complex mofo. what may seem as an unexpected course of action to you, could very well be just a series of plain nerve pulses and hormonal sucretions in the 'great scheme of things' or something like that..

Well in the grand scheme of things, I don't think humans play much of a role at all, but humanity itself is indeed complex for what it is. And this is pretty much where the conversation ends, since it's pretty much impossible to say in all honesty that it's impossible to have precalculated abnormalities.

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[KhayotiK]

[Lyrs]

exactly.

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[yuppa]

SIS! I bow to your insight

[DaggerDust26]

from what i just read...let me get this straight. ok humans are prone to be abnormal, some ppl actually think everythign they do is planed by god and they will be 'saved' by him(talk about mid-evil knight in shinning amor complex), the answer of time will ALWAYS be a MYSTERY(!!!) weather it exists or not, and finally the world is as corrupt as can be and we are all forever 'Royally F***ed' til the end of time.

now that was interesting, a little on the confusioning because no one TRULLY has an answer. this subject can go on til the end of tiem and by then we would STILL have no clue. eh to put it simplier life is forever confusing and we are the pawns of a chess game, in which whatever happens to us was either already planed and 'predestined' or this 'free will' which we all aparently have makes things go ary. far as life does its either already written and all 'dejavu' or we screw up and we do it again to double check our handy work.