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Post by SushiBoyJared » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:59 pm

Here's the list of the winners:
http://www.animesushi.com/smf/index.php?topic=3930.0
meleechampion wrote:I really hope they consider making the contest shorter next year (however they do it) because I'm not ready to give up on MegaCon yet.
I responded to a similar thought over at the AS forums, but let me copy/paste what I mentioned in that post over here:

"Now, as far as the length of the show, which has drawn a number of comments... the "pre-show" show with non-entry videos was about an hour (though we only saw about 7 videos), the contest itself was 2.5 hours and the awards presentation took about half an hour... so, if you were there for the WHOLE thing it was a 4 hour block. I realize this is a beastly amount of time to spend on one event, but I do want to make a quick point...

I limited the entries to a single entry per person this year because I wanted to minimize the need for me to select which of the videos would be entered into the contest, something I have willingly done in the past but have found to be very time consuming. I figured, as did a number of other people including those from Anime Sushi involved with the physical room scheduling and allotment, that there was NO way in h-e-double-hockeysticks that we would get 41 entries that would qualify to be part of the show. Thus, I didn't name a limit to entry numbers in the interest of having some flexibility. I also did not know the raw number of videos until about a week before the convention (I got about 10 or 15 entries in the last two days of the contest, and this was WELL after the con-guide went to press).

I've been considering from then until now, after the event has happened, what can be done to rectify the situation and have come to a number of conclusions. The first is that I am not willing to simply disqualify videos from being displayed based on their perceived quality. We've all been beginners at this at once, and I can't see myself being able to bring the axe down on someone's spirited first effort simply because of a few newbie mistakes. So, disqualifying based on ability is out of the question. Another option is moving to a "tiered" system. In other words, much like AWA has, I am likely to take the contest into a segmented presentation. First will come "non-contest" entries (an Exhibition open to anyone, not judged), a "Novice" contest section for first timers and those that want to compete with others newer to AMV editing, and a "Competition" section for those who have a serious desire to test their mettle against the best-of-the-best as far as our contest goes. My hope is that this will allow visitors to pick and choose which part they are interested in seeing without the need to stay for ALL of the parts of the event.

I also will probably add a note in our rules for next year that "Linkin Park/NuMetal Bands to Action Martial Arts Anime (DBZ, Naruto, etc.)" videos are HIGHLY discouraged for the "Competition" section. Frankly the idea has been done to DEATH and I've not seen an original take on the concept in a REALLY long time. I can understand the beginners dropping that as their first idea maybe because they have not experienced what is out there (hell, my first AMV was Princess Mononoke to Atari Teenage Riot's "Deutcheland Has Gotta Die")... but in competition I'm going to expect original ideas that have been planned and executed to a level that the editor feels is worthy of serious consideration and exploration by an audience... in other words, their BEST work."

(x-posted from: http://www.animesushi.com/smf/index.php?topic=3932.0 )

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Post by AquaSky » Tue Mar 11, 2008 3:51 pm

My personal take on the contest is this : While I can appreciate the sentiment that you guys want to show everyone's work regardless of skill level, some changes might be beneficial. From the audience's point of view, it's almost like having to wait through the very "rough" videos to get to the more finely crafted ones. My two cents is this - instead of having different set skill levels in the competition, why not have an extra viewing block ? It's hard to define a "novice" video, unless you're going strictly by the presence of logos/watermarks/subtitles. I've seen users create great AMVs on their very first attempts, and I've seen some who are still struggling to get the hang of it thirty videos into their career. It just seems like a classification issue people will get hung up on.

Several contests utilize the overflow block, and it seems to be a nice compromise. The audience gets a shorter, higher-quality showing and the new guys still get to have their work shown at the con. JACON, for example, seems to have a good system where they pre-judge for content and play the videos that may not be quite up to competition level in a viewing room following the main ceremony.

In the end, it's all about striking a balance between showcasing a wide variety of work and keeping the audience entertained. I don't want to sound callous by saying that I'd rather not watch six seperate subtitled Naruto videos in the span of a few hours, but I know more than a few viewers who share the same sentiment.

meleechampion wrote: Most Humorous: um... um... - "the Otaku Beer Commercial one" (sorry, couldn't find this one anywhere. If I had to take a guess, I'd guess IcyCloud made it, but I can't say for sure.)
Yeah, that one was mine; the title is "Plot Points". It was multiple anime set to "Mr. Anime Fanservice Inventor". I generally don't upload the uber-short ones to the .org, but I'll likely put it on my 'Tube account in the future.
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Post by Autraya » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:32 pm

*gives akwar yuri gropes* incase there was no actual prize >.>
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Post by SushiBoyJared » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:18 am

IcyCloud wrote:Several contests utilize the overflow block, and it seems to be a nice compromise. The audience gets a shorter, higher-quality showing and the new guys still get to have their work shown at the con. JACON, for example, seems to have a good system where they pre-judge for content and play the videos that may not be quite up to competition level in a viewing room following the main ceremony.

In the end, it's all about striking a balance between showcasing a wide variety of work and keeping the audience entertained. I don't want to sound callous by saying that I'd rather not watch six seperate subtitled Naruto videos in the span of a few hours, but I know more than a few viewers who share the same sentiment.
There are a lot of options to consider as a 4 hour AMV event is probably on the horizon with our current method. Everyone probably agrees that wont work. Still, we've managed to do things quite differently from every other contest out there... and that, to me, is the charm of our contest.

Again, I do appreciate everyone's suggestions, but I want you to all be aware of my main concern - I want to have a contest that is open to everyone yet encourages everyone to bring their finest work for the competition level.

Again, thanks to everyone who entered - we're busily planning how we'll do this event next year!

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Post by Minion » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:12 am

i missed it this year, but spoke to a few people who felt they wasted their time at the contest. shouldn't the audience's satisfaction be just as important as the creators?
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Post by SushiBoyJared » Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:39 am

Minion wrote:i missed it this year, but spoke to a few people who felt they wasted their time at the contest. shouldn't the audience's satisfaction be just as important as the creators?
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Well, Minion, in case you're unfamiliar, let me explain how an AMV contest works.

Step 1: You call for entries. This is the stage where entries come in from creators. You can limit your entries to only con participants, or place no limitations at all on who enters. (personally, I'm all about no-limitations as to where I get my entries from as I feel it increases the potential talent pool - important for a small contest!)

Step 2: You watch the entries with your judges and decide who will be your winners in various categories. Your judges can be literally ANYBODY (some contests use the creators, others have a panel they rely on, others simply do it themselves or have the audience judge by ballot).

Step 3: You show the videos and announce the winners.

Step 4: People whine about the contest on message boards.

Man, I can't wait to enter a video in your perfect AMV contest! Let me know when you get that up and running.

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Post by Minion » Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:24 pm

it's the 'show 1 video from everyone, no matter how bad it is' rule that i dislike. it makes for poor entertainment. and i recall people flooding out of the room last year.
it's cool that you want to give everybody a chance to have their work seen, but it's like letting fat people into a televised swimsuit contest
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Post by AnimeHotDog » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:31 am

meleechampion wrote:
superboi wrote:Congrats on the win to every1, and congrats to who ever made the Linkin Park video to the DBZ theme song. That was my favorite.
That was totally a result of um... not me. My roommate made that one, but you can guess I had to make sure it wasn't crappy (by adding my two cents every step of the way). Forced betaing ftw.
Yeah if 2 cents = deleting part of it when I'm gone. Nah, im just kidding. Im glad so many people liked it. Mad props to melee. The video is up BTW. I dont know how to link it, but just go to my profile and watch it. Later

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