Hey guys, I've just gotten back from a Youth Conference to come and find v2 of the site is up, and now apparently that some respected creators are saying 'adieu' to the community.
I just want to say that though I may not have talked to most of the creators who are leaving that they have nonetheless made an impact. It's almost impossible to be a real member here and not hear of Hsien, or EK, or Joe, and the great videos that they've made. To me it's an inspiration to simply try and be the best creator I can, because if you try and please everyone, chances are you'll please no one. I'm sure none of them started making AMVs saying, "Everyone will bow down at the sound of my name one day! *evil laughter*" In fact, I'm more than certain they didn't start with that intention, so why should I? I have a vision to get across, and making AMVs is a learning experience. If people like my vision: more power to me. If they don't: So be it, I accomplished my goal.
EK-Sorry to see you go, I didn't know you very well but you could sure as hell make me laugh. (I coincedentally claim the Dancing Dino pic for use in the forums in EK's absence)
Now with that out of the way...
I have to agree with whoever said (no, I'm not going to go back and look, I'm tired enough already) that a new era is starting at AnimeMusicVideos.org. There is a new era starting, in fact, I think I've seen the rotation coming for a while now. New creators are starting to come forward (myself included), and take it or leave it, some of us are going to replace the 'legends' (for lack of a better word) everyone talks about. That's just the way it is. Things change, or they become stagnant. Change is neccesary, and although it may not always be easy, in the end it's good for AMVs.
It had better be good for it, because things are going to change regardless.
Ek leaving... and maybe me too
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FirestormXIII
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DiemondDagger
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Sad year in AMV world.-
Bahamut God
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I got to page 6 and gave up. I don't know where this topic is now (I know topics tend to move around) but ummm... yeah. Bye EK, I liked reading your journal even if I never got home intime to get the damn mp3's. Meroboshi (I can't spell your, or anyone's name) please do keep puting your videos into the arcive even if you don't read the reviews. This arcive makes like much easyer for us fans. (well I made a few crap videos, but still)
...hmm, I better be careful, I've gotten aticted to forums with post counts before. (rembers when he was at a fourm where people have over 10,000 post, in like 6 months.)
...>_< so much time taken up. >_<
Oh, and jen was right, there are so many of these http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame20.html here it's not even funny. But that's mostly the "commen's man's (and womens)" fault. ^_^
...hmm, I better be careful, I've gotten aticted to forums with post counts before. (rembers when he was at a fourm where people have over 10,000 post, in like 6 months.)
...>_< so much time taken up. >_<
Oh, and jen was right, there are so many of these http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame20.html here it's not even funny. But that's mostly the "commen's man's (and womens)" fault. ^_^
[Visit my Profile, it hates Bush!]
[Feel bad for someone who killed a kid]
"I'm telling you, I want to be a loser."-Khushrenada
I have a titley thing, and you might not. ^_^/
[Feel bad for someone who killed a kid]
"I'm telling you, I want to be a loser."-Khushrenada
I have a titley thing, and you might not. ^_^/
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Bahamut God
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Damn no edit button.
Ever notese when things start to go main streem (even a little) it tends to freak people out? I think i see that with anime as a whole. As more people get into cause of the new shows on tv, people start to hate the tv shows and sometimes the whole series they play on tv. I wonder who all would have liked to see fansubs of pokemon if it had not gone on wb, or the people who would have liked dragonball z before it went on cartoon network.
Course I have no room to talk, I got into anime in the first place cause of dragonball z on cartoon network, and now I don't like dragonball z so much. But I don't think it's evil. I don't know, this just kind of reminds me of that.
...I want you all to know that making fun of my spelling is like making fun of a devlmently disabled person. ^_^ (course that's not an exuse, cause I'm too lazy to use spell check) ^_^
Ever notese when things start to go main streem (even a little) it tends to freak people out? I think i see that with anime as a whole. As more people get into cause of the new shows on tv, people start to hate the tv shows and sometimes the whole series they play on tv. I wonder who all would have liked to see fansubs of pokemon if it had not gone on wb, or the people who would have liked dragonball z before it went on cartoon network.
Course I have no room to talk, I got into anime in the first place cause of dragonball z on cartoon network, and now I don't like dragonball z so much. But I don't think it's evil. I don't know, this just kind of reminds me of that.
...I want you all to know that making fun of my spelling is like making fun of a devlmently disabled person. ^_^ (course that's not an exuse, cause I'm too lazy to use spell check) ^_^
[Visit my Profile, it hates Bush!]
[Feel bad for someone who killed a kid]
"I'm telling you, I want to be a loser."-Khushrenada
I have a titley thing, and you might not. ^_^/
[Feel bad for someone who killed a kid]
"I'm telling you, I want to be a loser."-Khushrenada
I have a titley thing, and you might not. ^_^/
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jbone
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Read a book!
I must say... I've been everything here from a helpful, friendly person to a mindless, driveling troll, depending on my mood... but there's one thing I'll say for certain: Too many of you people take things here way too seriously.
(Get ready for a semi-obscure reference...)
To quote Handy:
READ A BOOK!
Seriously, many people here need to go out and do things <B>other</B> than write messages on the board and edit videos and watch videos and watch anime... I know what some of the people who've seen me posting for the past few months are thinking, "But, jBone, you post here constantly!" Yes, but that's only 'cause I have way too much time on my hands.
And no matter how much I post here, I <I>never</I> take <I>anytihng</I> posted on here <I>too</I> seriously.
Some people act as though their entire social life revolves around e-contact with people they may never meet. To you I say: <B>READ A BOOK!</B>
Some people take everything on this message board <I>so</I> fsking seriously that I have to wonder if they even know there's a world outside their own homes. To these people, I say: <B>READ A BOOK!</B>
I read the first couple of pages here...I skimmed through most of the rest... and the sheer, needless inanity of so much of this thread's discussion has prompted me to add needlessly to the inanity.
Oh, and one last thing:
ErMaC, what are you <I>thinking?</I> Imagine you saying you <I>like</I> talking to me! For goodness' sake, next you'll be <I>watching my videos...</I>
(Get ready for a semi-obscure reference...)
To quote Handy:
READ A BOOK!
Seriously, many people here need to go out and do things <B>other</B> than write messages on the board and edit videos and watch videos and watch anime... I know what some of the people who've seen me posting for the past few months are thinking, "But, jBone, you post here constantly!" Yes, but that's only 'cause I have way too much time on my hands.
And no matter how much I post here, I <I>never</I> take <I>anytihng</I> posted on here <I>too</I> seriously.
Some people act as though their entire social life revolves around e-contact with people they may never meet. To you I say: <B>READ A BOOK!</B>
Some people take everything on this message board <I>so</I> fsking seriously that I have to wonder if they even know there's a world outside their own homes. To these people, I say: <B>READ A BOOK!</B>
I read the first couple of pages here...I skimmed through most of the rest... and the sheer, needless inanity of so much of this thread's discussion has prompted me to add needlessly to the inanity.
Oh, and one last thing:
ErMaC, what are you <I>thinking?</I> Imagine you saying you <I>like</I> talking to me! For goodness' sake, next you'll be <I>watching my videos...</I>
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ErMaC
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OrionPro001
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One can read a book inside their house. They can read all the books that they want to, and still not know anything about the outside world.
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Where Anime & Music Come Together.
Where Anime & Music Come Together.
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Arekuru
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Ooh, a disdainer of books....
<rant>
Okay, I's is grumpy. Thou shalt not make fun of books, nor shalt thou proclaim the knowledge they offer stupid because it was read instead of "experienced." You can learn a lot from books, whether they be sci-fi, non-fiction, or even [deity-forbid] romance. Such as this so-called "outside world" of yours. Books have to have a setting, for example. In order to understand that setting, "outside world" knowledge is employed/gained. You don't have to go to Antartica to learn that it's cold there; you could read Mr. Popper's Penguins instead. (Okay, stupid reference, but it's late/early, and I'm damn fond of Mr. Popper's Penguins, so shuddup. And yes, you could learn about Antartica in school or something too. But then there wouldn't be penguins in the basement.)
Besides, the internet is a lot like a book; just one with a lot more pages and being constantly reissued and with multiple publishers.
</rant>
Okay, I's is grumpy. Thou shalt not make fun of books, nor shalt thou proclaim the knowledge they offer stupid because it was read instead of "experienced." You can learn a lot from books, whether they be sci-fi, non-fiction, or even [deity-forbid] romance. Such as this so-called "outside world" of yours. Books have to have a setting, for example. In order to understand that setting, "outside world" knowledge is employed/gained. You don't have to go to Antartica to learn that it's cold there; you could read Mr. Popper's Penguins instead. (Okay, stupid reference, but it's late/early, and I'm damn fond of Mr. Popper's Penguins, so shuddup. And yes, you could learn about Antartica in school or something too. But then there wouldn't be penguins in the basement.)
Besides, the internet is a lot like a book; just one with a lot more pages and being constantly reissued and with multiple publishers.
</rant>
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punistation
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"People argue when they do not fully understand". - DIEMONDDAGGER
Actually, there's an occassional person who argues not because they don't understand, but because they don't agree. It has been known to happen now n' then.
Hey, was that the vomiting guy in This Is Otakudom? I wasn't too sure."Hsien! THE DRUNK!!!"
But that was just bizarre to watch. There's the poor boy, on the ground, vomit n' beer dribbling onto grass, doing the whole "gwgwgaman I wish I waz dead" thing that vomiting drunks do, and this other big bloke starts with the "No! You're alive! So live!" thing. (Oy, talk about watching one too many EVA episodes...)
Yeah, telling Trekkies to get a life works wonders."Seriously, many people here need to go out and do things..." - JBONE
As for reading a book... easily done.
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NEW REVIEW SYSTEM PROPOSAL
Wow, while sifting through 8 pages of posts here, I've had quite a bit of time to think. I'd like to propose a new review system that I think might keep everyone happy. Most of this has already been proposed by others, though I've made some slight revisions to the ideas.
First of all, get rid of the top 10% as we know it currently. I'm sure Phade has put a lot of work into it, but it really is rather pointless, and it leads people to make reviews into these so-called popularity contests.
Next thing, LEAVE the current review system as it is, though put a disaimer on it saying that if you are going to leave a review, you MUST write something that is verbose and well thought-out. Now I don't mean you must write page long reviews or more, but at least 2 good paragraphs. There is the possibility of restricting only other creators to being able to post these reviews, but I'm not quite sure how much I like that idea.
Finally, add a new type of opinion in addition to the current review system. This would simply be a thumbs up/neutral/down opinion, and maybe allow for a few lines of comment. Any registered member of the site should be able to post one of these.
Now regarding the top 10%, there could be a new thing similar to it created, but utilizing the thumbs scores. Essentially, all videos would start at a score of zero. Every thumbs up would add +1 to the score, while every thumbs down would add -1 to the score, and neutral would not change the score at all. Essentially, the higher a videos score, the more popular it is. Since it would be so easy to leave this sort of opinion, videos could easily get hundreds of them.
Now finally, I'll explain the purpose of these changes and how I think they would improve things. With the removal of the current top 10%, there would be absolutely no reason for anyone to write a pointless review. The ONLY person that it would effect would be the person that recieves the review. (Though they could still choose to make up to 2 opinions public) Even if someone decided they hate your guts and so they give you straight 1's, who really gives a damn now, it wont matter in the least.
Now the thumbs reviews, they would serve merely as a gauge of public opinion to your video. This would give people the ability to simply state their opinion of your video without having to give you a pointless review. Since everyone would likely recieve LOTS of these types of opinions, it wouldn't really matter even if someone did give you a thumbs down or something just because they hate your guts, as that 1 opinion wouldnt have much weight. Also this would make the people that never get opinions happier, as they WILL get some sort of opinions on their videos.
So now what does everyone think of this? Does anyone have any objections to this sort of review system? Do you love this idea? If everyone would be happy with this, then we could throw the idea to Phade and let it become a reality.
First of all, get rid of the top 10% as we know it currently. I'm sure Phade has put a lot of work into it, but it really is rather pointless, and it leads people to make reviews into these so-called popularity contests.
Next thing, LEAVE the current review system as it is, though put a disaimer on it saying that if you are going to leave a review, you MUST write something that is verbose and well thought-out. Now I don't mean you must write page long reviews or more, but at least 2 good paragraphs. There is the possibility of restricting only other creators to being able to post these reviews, but I'm not quite sure how much I like that idea.
Finally, add a new type of opinion in addition to the current review system. This would simply be a thumbs up/neutral/down opinion, and maybe allow for a few lines of comment. Any registered member of the site should be able to post one of these.
Now regarding the top 10%, there could be a new thing similar to it created, but utilizing the thumbs scores. Essentially, all videos would start at a score of zero. Every thumbs up would add +1 to the score, while every thumbs down would add -1 to the score, and neutral would not change the score at all. Essentially, the higher a videos score, the more popular it is. Since it would be so easy to leave this sort of opinion, videos could easily get hundreds of them.
Now finally, I'll explain the purpose of these changes and how I think they would improve things. With the removal of the current top 10%, there would be absolutely no reason for anyone to write a pointless review. The ONLY person that it would effect would be the person that recieves the review. (Though they could still choose to make up to 2 opinions public) Even if someone decided they hate your guts and so they give you straight 1's, who really gives a damn now, it wont matter in the least.
Now the thumbs reviews, they would serve merely as a gauge of public opinion to your video. This would give people the ability to simply state their opinion of your video without having to give you a pointless review. Since everyone would likely recieve LOTS of these types of opinions, it wouldn't really matter even if someone did give you a thumbs down or something just because they hate your guts, as that 1 opinion wouldnt have much weight. Also this would make the people that never get opinions happier, as they WILL get some sort of opinions on their videos.
So now what does everyone think of this? Does anyone have any objections to this sort of review system? Do you love this idea? If everyone would be happy with this, then we could throw the idea to Phade and let it become a reality.