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Post by R-A-N-M-A » Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:59 pm

Wow I hope I can be a thug killing supa hero when I grow up!
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Post by jonmartensen » Sun Jan 12, 2003 2:22 am

I wanna kill bad guys too.
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Post by dokidoki » Sun Jan 12, 2003 3:04 am

Double O Ninety wrote:I wonder what people tste like.
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Post by nailz » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:24 am

thats texas for you.
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Post by jonmartensen » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:29 am

No, this is Texas for you
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Post by Double O Ninety » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:32 am

Great, everyone highlighted my spelling error...

Anyway, I know that was cool and all, but I don't understand why that guy didn't get busted. I mean, taking a life? Since when did we put the decision to punish criminals in the hands of old convenience store owners? I know it seems cool, and they deserved it, but to kill them? I'm sure they wouldn't have done it if they thought they'd be killed... I mean, when you rob a store, you know the most you're risking is a few years in prison. If they thought they'd get shot, maybe they would've gone after something bigger. Like taking down Microsoft.

That old guy is cool, but those men were just people with problems. Maybe he could've at least TRIED not to kill them... I know no one wants to hear this, but some criminals do get help, and do live among us today. It isn't fair to deny someone of their basic human rights.
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Post by jonmartensen » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:53 am

Self defence.
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Post by Double O Ninety » Sun Jan 12, 2003 11:59 am

Unless the kids are shooting at you or beating you, you shouldn't SHOOT THEM. Couldn't he just use some non deadly gas to knock them out?
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Post by kthulhu » Sun Jan 12, 2003 2:45 pm

Double O Ninety wrote:Anyway, I know that was cool and all, but I don't understand why that guy didn't get busted. I mean, taking a life? Since when did we put the decision to punish criminals in the hands of old convenience store owners? I know it seems cool, and they deserved it, but to kill them?
He only killed one. And don't tell me you think these three thugs, who probably would just as likely kill him, are worth keeping alive in jail. They made a dumb choice, for whatever reason, and one of them paid the ultimate price (namely, one 12 gauge shotgun shell worth of steel pellets fatally ripping through him). And since robbers have shot people in the past even when they cooperated, the law says you can kill them in self defense. And thank god.
Double O Ninety wrote:I'm sure they wouldn't have done it if they thought they'd be killed... I mean, when you rob a store, you know the most you're risking is a few years in prison.
Well, prison isn't a picnic. And this is why it is a good thing civilians can own firearms. Makes robbers and such think twice, "Hey, maybe that guy has a gun and won't hesitate to use it. Is it worth it?". Apparently they calculated the risk to be negligible, and the dice didn't roll in their favor. They blew it, and one of them got blown away. All for a few thousand dollars, at best.
Double O Ninety wrote:That old guy is cool, but those men were just people with problems.
Yes, they were human trash who made a bad decision. Now they get to live (or not live) with the consequences. And one of them was a woman.
Double O Ninety wrote:Maybe he could've at least TRIED not to kill them...
He's 74, panicked, with a walker. What do you want him to do, shoot cigarettes out of their mouths?
Double O Ninety wrote:I know no one wants to hear this, but some criminals do get help, and do live among us today. It isn't fair to deny someone of their basic human rights.
And they denied him his human rights to live a life of liberty and happiness, unmolested. "Some" criminals getting help is not good enough. And what help do you offer to some young vagrants? A bigger welfare check? This trio was destined for a bad end in the long run.
Double O Ninety wrote:Unless the kids are shooting at you or beating you, you shouldn't SHOOT THEM.
Okay, 0090, if I broke into your house with a gun, and your parents came into the room I was in with a gun, would you tell them not to shoot me, so long as I wasn't aiming the pistol at any of you? Do you think they would listen to you? And if they did, would you trust me not to shoot you on my way out, because witnesses are potential trouble?

If the kids are shooting at or beating you, it's probably too late to shoot them. The man felt threatened, he did the right thing (both legally, and unofficially :lol: ). I know it offends your bleeding heart sensibilities, but some people ARE JUST SHIT, and their lives aren't worth even that. These three fall into that category. The cosmic dice rolled in his favor that day, and two pieces of human trash got shafted, with one going broke.

And ask yourself this before spouting more whiny, "all life is precious" propaganda: what if they killed the old guy and the clerk?

All life is not equally precious. Don't believe the hype. I'm pretty liberal, and even I understand that.

Self defense is a right. You're free to get injured, raped, or killed by the "people with problems" all you want, but if I can kill 'em before any of that happens to me, by God, Allah, Odin, Xenu, Satan, and Cthulhu, I will.
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Post by jonmartensen » Sun Jan 12, 2003 2:50 pm

The old man served up a plate of BAM! to the whipper snappers robbing his store.

I know if my store got robbed 11 times before, and I had been shot in one of those cases, I would shoot first and ask questions later if someone tried to rob my store again.
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