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Post by JaddziaDax » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:06 am

if it was a fan tribute (or a music video of some kind) to my work then I'd probably love it and want to distribute it myself knowing that someone out there appreciates my work... *awesome!!*

but if it was just a complete rip off and distrobution of my entire work (like someone sharing it on a P2P) then I would be pissed...

fan tribute is alot different from piracy in my view... if it is a fan work of my original work then I would love to see what people do with it no matter how crappy the work is...

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Re: The other side of the legal mirror...

Post by trythil » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:13 am

azulmagia wrote:I wonder if it would be a good idea in light of recent events to have a stickified thread outlining sources that are covered under a Creative Commons license or are otherwise OK to use - such as the Overclocked Remixes for example.
Probably.

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Post by Samurai Drifter » Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:15 am

I would care if it was my main source of income, but generally I would just be happy to see people watching it.
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Post by Scintilla » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:06 am

azulmagia wrote:I don't know about AMVs with original animation and music, but there is an AMV where the editor sang the soundtrack. The editor is SailorAthena18: http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members ... hp?v=93985
Didn't compose it though.
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Post by Zarxrax » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:38 am

azulmagia wrote:I wonder if it would be a good idea in light of recent events to have a stickified thread outlining sources that are covered under a Creative Commons license or are otherwise OK to use - such as the Overclocked Remixes for example.
To the best of my knowledge, the music from overclocked remix is illegal. I can't remember where I've heard this though.

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:23 am

OmniStrata wrote:Would it be possible for me to sell this thing,
You can try, but if somebody buys? :twisted:
OmniStrata wrote: get it registered under copyright law,
You don't need to register. In the very moment you make it public it is protected by copyright.
OmniStrata wrote:What would you like to do to people who took YOUR footage? .
Depends. As long as they follow the rules what I call fair use:
1) They don't make money with it.
2) They credit the original copyright holder.
3) They don't interfere with the copyright holder financial interests.
I wouldn't do anything.
In case 1) or 2) is involved, I'd let them pay that they'll never again drop over the poverty line and I can make my living with the money I earn from them. :twisted:
In case only 2) is infringed they had to pay a penalty which will remind them not to forget about it.

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Post by trythil » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:02 am

3) They don't interfere with the copyright holder financial interests.
Please expand on that. What do you define as "interference"?

I hope you see where this is heading.

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:19 am

trythil wrote:What do you define as "interference"?
Whatever comes to mind. :D
To be serious: every infringement of rule 1 includes an infringement of rule 3. Beside this, every "as is" distribution as well as the creation of works which are competing with mine.

To take OmniStrata's example, if that AMV is the only thing I want to make money with, every music video using using either the music or the animation from mine would be interference. Drawing fanart from the animation would be fine. Using the music to create new would be fine. Using the animation or the music in a movie would be fine. And so on. Of course it would be different if I want to use it that way too or at least want to give commercial licenses for this use.

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Post by trythil » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:01 pm

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
trythil wrote:What do you define as "interference"?
Whatever comes to mind. :D
To be serious: every infringement of rule 1 includes an infringement of rule 3. Beside this, every "as is" distribution as well as the creation of works which are competing with mine.
Okay, so you're using the "all rights reserved" model.

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Post by Keeper of Hellfire » Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:14 am

Yesterday I was a little bit in hurry, so the reply is a little bit sloppy. I would say "some/many rights reserved" and put it under a license which clarifies what is allowed and what needs my permission.

The point "interference with financial interests" depends soley on the copyright holder. While the first two points are easy to fulfill, this point is always gambling on chances for someone who wants to make fair use of a copyrighted work as long as it isn't released under a specific license.

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