Shinji: Butch or Bitch?

[Nestorath69]

I recently read an interview of Yoshiyuki Sadamoto's that defined Current society's visual of a madman "Crazy on the outside, normal and suffering on the inside" and Sadamoto deliberately made Shinji the direct opposite.

Either way, He was 14 and trying to find his way in a world where his dad killed his mom, rejected him, and payed more attention to an
'unemotional doll' more than him. If you look at Japanese culture, and how mormally close-knit the family system is there, you'll understand, then, why it was so tramatic for shinji, and why everyone, from the first episode, thought it as VERY controversial.

[Shun]

I can't agree with the question.

Shinji is neither a bitch nor a butch.

He is a kid who lost his mother and was abandoned by his father. He was emotionally damaged and suddenly thrust into a horrible situation. Over the course of the show, he discovered how to open up... to make friends... he challeneged his own fear and confronted the things that frightened him. Like many of us, some of the lessons he learned stuck while others didn't hold and e had to learn them again.

His story is one of empowerment and overall and optimistic message.

Shinji is not a bitch... he's a child who has more thrust upon him than a child should have.

Shinji is not butch. He doesn't become some tough hombre... nor does he become some optimistic war hound screamin' "bring it on"

He just finds the courage to face himself... to face what he is and try to work with what he's got in the face of all the rest of humanity.

I think Shinji is an amazingly complicated character and his story help characterize problems in life we all face... problems of forming friendships, of developing trust and overcoming obstacles as best as you can. Learning how to find your own voice... learning how to be who you are and learning to like who you are.


Shinji is a true hero, just not a conventional one.

-Uncle Milo

Exactly, I also wanted to add that the comment that was made earlier about evangelion being about giant robots and the such is rediculous, if you actually thought that the conclusion of the fight between Angels and Eva was the point of the story then you need to go back and watch the series 2 to 3 more times.

How can you make a thread asking if he is the weaker or stronger side of human when the whole story is focused tword him just being able to be himself? Of course the giant robots were part of it but it could of been anything, he could of had to be on a space ship, survived during dinasour times, ect ect, that really didnt matter at all.


Good explanation milo, bad thread

[Lyrs]

He was horny and he masturbated to a girl who had been recently mind raped. he's a pervert. the horny kind.

Anyway, Shinji's the average horny boy who grew out a little bit.

[Propyro]

*goes to original question*

Butch or bitch? neither ...

but he is a suck and has a bad habbit of whining a lot. i love Eva, but you have to admit it ... shinji just spends a lot of time bitching and moaing.

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and im gona ask why this thread wasnt just turned into a fucking poll ?

[Trunks_Blade]

i love Eva, but you have to admit it ... shinji just spends a lot of time bitching and moaing.

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I agree...at times it does seem like he whines and runs away only to end up back where he started and then does the job. I guess its easy to say "why didn't you do it in the first place and save us all the fuss!" But Shinji's character is complicated and realistic.

Of course in reality...a guy like him with his social skills would be considered weirder than the usual person...but looking at the circumstances you understand why he is how he is.

Think about it, he looses his mother at a young age...he hardly knows hes abandoning father - who when he does meet him again, treats him like shit...and is suddenly forced to try and save the world against entities he has no idea about. Finally he is only 14 - i mean the dude doesn't still doesnt even know how to drive. When I was 14, I didn't know what the hell was going on with me...and i had it good

Anyway, Shinji certainly does show strength at times -

With his battle with Leliel (the alternate dimension, shadow one) he's trapped in his body for around 16 hours...he doesn't crack till the last couple of hours - I doubt I'd stay sane for half as long

[AtomicWeezleman]

meh, probrably slept for most of them...

Hmm..... coulndt really say he was a wussy boy...... after all he did

seriously kick ass in nerv after Asuka and Rei had been defeated by the 16th? angel, (the one with origami arms)

but he did wuss enought not to be classed as butch..........


Anyhow, what kind of dumbass question is this??? And why am i answering it?? Arghh

[samurairyu]

*whip crack*

I agree, BTW. I just wanted to whip you.

Oh baby yeah!

My I have another!

[samurairyu]

I can't agree with the question.

Shinji is neither a bitch nor a butch.

He is a kid who lost his mother and was abandoned by his father. He was emotionally damaged and suddenly thrust into a horrible situation. Over the course of the show, he discovered how to open up... to make friends... he challeneged his own fear and confronted the things that frightened him. Like many of us, some of the lessons he learned stuck while others didn't hold and e had to learn them again.

His story is one of empowerment and overall and optimistic message.

Shinji is not a bitch... he's a child who has more thrust upon him than a child should have.

Shinji is not butch. He doesn't become some tough hombre... nor does he become some optimistic war hound screamin' "bring it on"

He just finds the courage to face himself... to face what he is and try to work with what he's got in the face of all the rest of humanity.

I think Shinji is an amazingly complicated character and his story help characterize problems in life we all face... problems of forming friendships, of developing trust and overcoming obstacles as best as you can. Learning how to find your own voice... learning how to be who you are and learning to like who you are.


Shinji is a true hero, just not a conventional one.

-Uncle Milo

Exactly, I also wanted to add that the comment that was made earlier about evangelion being about giant robots and the such is rediculous, if you actually thought that the conclusion of the fight between Angels and Eva was the point of the story then you need to go back and watch the series 2 to 3 more times.

How can you make a thread asking if he is the weaker or stronger side of human when the whole story is focused tword him just being able to be himself? Of course the giant robots were part of it but it could of been anything, he could of had to be on a space ship, survived during dinasour times, ect ect, that really didnt matter at all.


Good explanation milo, bad thread

Of course the battle was irrelevant, and I will add that Shinji never truly faces his himself or resolves anything. He never accepts his fate as someone that other people depend on. People die because of his constant bitching, even if he did become a complete person and came to grips with his reality doesn't justify their deaths...a real hero puts others before himself, not the other way around. Through the whole series(which I did enjoy) I wanted to shake Shinji and tell him to get over it. So your mother is dead. So you are alone. So your father is a jerk. That is life!
As the great Shaka(Buddha) understood: Life is suffering, to know life is to know pain,then you die.

The question would be better stated as whether one believes that Shinji's character is a person to be annoyed with or one to be held above the normal kin.

I choose the former.

[samurairyu]

and im gona ask why this thread wasnt just turned into a fucking poll ?

It should be a poll