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- emp|typ|athetic
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- DaggerDust26
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considerign time doesnt fully exist, then why do we all rely on it soo much. if ya think about it the only reason we all age is because we believe in time. so the question is 'if we forgot time existed, would we live forever?'. talk about confusing, if we try to 'make up' for something that happened are we just trying to relive the past? god when u think of usign time u get soo much, past present future. i mean u can go from 'what coudl or should of happened' to if all the choices were just 'fake' like having choices really didnt exist u 'already' subconciencely made the answers wayy ahead of time. if all of that is put together then fate is 'supposed' to exist and anyone who trys to escape is really living through there fate. what is destiny?
Last kiss-"in the heat of the night, you hold my body tight,
in the heat of the night, you crest something,
that never felt right"
Waterfalls-"the tear drop falls, into a pool of sweet serenity"
in the heat of the night, you crest something,
that never felt right"
Waterfalls-"the tear drop falls, into a pool of sweet serenity"
- KhayotiK
- Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2002 8:58 pm
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*sigh* What people fail to comprehend is that free-will is still apparent, even in fate. You still get to live your own life, make your own damn decisions, and be your own self. Fate is merely the knowledge of what is to happen BECAUSE of what people CHOOSE to do. Fate is hard to relate to free-will, because people tend to think the two contradict eachother (even though they don't.) And to try and defy fate is impossible, for whatever you do or whatever happens in the end IS fate, ya see? I think I've confused myself...
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- emp|typ|athetic
- Joined: Sat May 10, 2003 11:33 am
youre all wrong.
a person is but a product of his environment. and as such his actions are derived solely from his background, his upbringing, and every single exprience cocious or subconcious he had ever undergone. wait, no. this goes even further: i strongly believe in the domino theory thing or whatever its called (was it chaos theory..? or was chaos the opposite of it.. nevermind). all events are triggered by previous events, even the smallest most insignificant things, like thermal changes in the atmosphere or the carbon level in the whatnot.. it all matters, and may very much effect wether youll be making an EVA AMV tomorrow, or giving it up for a pigfarming chareer.. so whether you are aware of the past or not, you still exist withing the boundries of time, in which case the past ownz your ass
so in a sense all events are very much predetermined. although in another sense you still have free will and the right to choose. its just that your choices are part of the 'time stream' thing.
you can chose not to chose but then youll probably just die of thurst, or get an ulcer, which would also be predetermined..
the reason im saying all this (repetitive, icoherent) stuff is because i know there are alot of people out there who believe in some 'higher forces' that will 'deliver them to salvation if only they live a clean and richeous life'.. and they are safe of all harm because they do no wrong and if anything bad happens to them or their families its because 'god works in mistirious ways' and 'theres a lesson i this' ..
bullshit..
boy i hope you didnt just read all this.. cause if you did, man thats too bad. you couldve spent that time getting a laid or something..
a person is but a product of his environment. and as such his actions are derived solely from his background, his upbringing, and every single exprience cocious or subconcious he had ever undergone. wait, no. this goes even further: i strongly believe in the domino theory thing or whatever its called (was it chaos theory..? or was chaos the opposite of it.. nevermind). all events are triggered by previous events, even the smallest most insignificant things, like thermal changes in the atmosphere or the carbon level in the whatnot.. it all matters, and may very much effect wether youll be making an EVA AMV tomorrow, or giving it up for a pigfarming chareer.. so whether you are aware of the past or not, you still exist withing the boundries of time, in which case the past ownz your ass
so in a sense all events are very much predetermined. although in another sense you still have free will and the right to choose. its just that your choices are part of the 'time stream' thing.
you can chose not to chose but then youll probably just die of thurst, or get an ulcer, which would also be predetermined..
the reason im saying all this (repetitive, icoherent) stuff is because i know there are alot of people out there who believe in some 'higher forces' that will 'deliver them to salvation if only they live a clean and richeous life'.. and they are safe of all harm because they do no wrong and if anything bad happens to them or their families its because 'god works in mistirious ways' and 'theres a lesson i this' ..
bullshit..
boy i hope you didnt just read all this.. cause if you did, man thats too bad. you couldve spent that time getting a laid or something..
"One should never kill a person, especially if it means taking his life." ~Boris
- KhayotiK
- Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2002 8:58 pm
- Location: Sesame Street.
You pose a great truth, environment does affect the individual, but contrary to your beliefs, this is not the whole of a person. The human brain is not controlled by its surroundings, it merely uses them as references in new situations. This does not mean that your natural reflexes cannot be changed if you still exist in the same environment, and that alone proves that the individual is NOT so easily defined, nor is a thinking individual so easily calculated. Humans are prone to abnormal behavior, it's a simple fact.emp|typ|athetic wrote:youre all wrong.
a person is but a product of his environment. and as such his actions are derived solely from his background, his upbringing, and every single exprience cocious or subconcious he had ever undergone. wait, no. this goes even further: i strongly believe in the domino theory thing or whatever its called (was it chaos theory..? or was chaos the opposite of it.. nevermind). all events are triggered by previous events, even the smallest most insignificant things, like thermal changes in the atmosphere or the carbon level in the whatnot.. it all matters, and may very much effect wether youll be making an EVA AMV tomorrow, or giving it up for a pigfarming chareer.. so whether you are aware of the past or not, you still exist withing the boundries of time, in which case the past ownz your ass
so in a sense all events are very much predetermined. although in another sense you still have free will and the right to choose. its just that your choices are part of the 'time stream' thing.
you can chose not to chose but then youll probably just die of thurst, or get an ulcer, which would also be predetermined..
the reason im saying all this (repetitive, icoherent) stuff is because i know there are alot of people out there who believe in some 'higher forces' that will 'deliver them to salvation if only they live a clean and richeous life'.. and they are safe of all harm because they do no wrong and if anything bad happens to them or their families its because 'god works in mistirious ways' and 'theres a lesson i this' ..
bullshit..
boy i hope you didnt just read all this.. cause if you did, man thats too bad. you couldve spent that time getting a laid or something..