star giving ratio and erronous user-base.

[Mike of the Desert] · Post by **[Mike of the Desert]** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:30 pm

You care about stars?

Anyway, for my videos the percentages fly from 70 to 90%, rarely more or less.
I don't see any strange trend by my side.. I think that it just depend by who actually download the videos..

Imo, that is the point.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:37 pm

I wasn't suggesting we do anything about the tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of one time users, just musing on whether there was a correlation or not.

My best guess for the percentages is that the more cons you submit a video to, the less the percentage will be, aside form that I'm open to other interpretations of the figures. we have some pretty smart people here, right?

JaddziaDax · Post by **JaddziaDax** » Tue May 08, 2007 12:39 pm

maybe not the more cons, but the more popular the video is the less likely people will stiff you on star rating...

Shazzy · Post by **Shazzy** » Tue May 08, 2007 1:36 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
My best guess for the percentages is that the more cons you submit a video to, the less the percentage will be, aside form that I'm open to other interpretations of the figures. we have some pretty smart people here, right?

Maybe.

The one video I submitted to a crapload of cons has 87% star/download ratio. The one I submitted to three cons has 89%. The one I submitted to one tiny con has 91%.

Blanco22 · Post by **Blanco22** » Wed May 09, 2007 7:19 am

For all my videos, old and new, about 85% of the people have left star ratings. None of my videos have to been at cons.

Keeper of Hellfire wrote:
Lockstock wrote:Perhaps introducing a policy to delete idle accounts without videos after a certain period of time would fix the problem of having too many one time users?
But what would this help regarding missing stars? Nothing! In opposite, it would make things worse - if the account is deleted, the pending stars never can be given. If the account remains there is the chance that the pending stars one time are given - even if it is after months or years.

They should at least flag accounts as inactive after a time and remove them from the member count so that we have a better idea about the size of the active community. It sucks not getting the star rating, but if you don't get one it neither hurts nor helps your star rating. After a couple hundred stars, the star rating should eventually settle down. My two older videos have had the same star average for the past 7 months or so. One of them recently went up by 0.01.

As for one-time users from cons, I've never been to a con (not an anime con anyway, I do make it to Gencon every year). Do you guys usually advertise the org while you're there?

Regardless of that, I don't think any of these numbers are significant enough to say there's any trend. It's just random variance.

Michele wrote:You care about stars?

I do because I think the ~85% feedback rate on stars is a more accurate measure of my video's quality than the 1-3% feedback rate on ops. But the op ratings are more visible than the star rating. I think donators can see the star rating right on the video information page, which makes me want to get around to donating some day.

Shazzy · Post by **Shazzy** » Wed May 09, 2007 9:39 am

Blanco22 wrote: I think donators can see the star rating right on the video information page, which makes me want to get around to donating some day.

Blanco22 · Post by **Blanco22** » Wed May 09, 2007 12:32 pm

Shazzy wrote:
Blanco22 wrote: I think donators can see the star rating right on the video information page, which makes me want to get around to donating some day.

DANSU!

Thank you for the example. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Should I trust the 24 ops or the 1285 stars?

Shazzy · Post by **Shazzy** » Wed May 09, 2007 12:40 pm

Opinions = movie critics. Stars = box office ticket sales.

IMO, anyway.

BasharOfTheAges · Post by **BasharOfTheAges** » Wed May 09, 2007 1:58 pm

Shazzy wrote:Opinions = movie critics. Stars = box office ticket sales.

Assuming around 20% of people get free tickets or sneak into the theater.

meleechampion · Post by **meleechampion** » Wed May 09, 2007 2:17 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Shazzy wrote:Opinions = movie critics. Stars = box office ticket sales.
Assuming around 20% of people get free tickets or sneak into the theater.

I think maybe she meant the star rating, not number of stars. That would make more sense. The higher the star rating, the more general mass appeal your video has.