History of the hobby

tardini · Post by **tardini** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:58 pm

Was downloading some video and noticed that this website community was created on 2001 and now by the end of 2006 it will be 5 years old.
anyway i noticed that there are no videos talking about the history of this hobby, do we have anything like that in a video sorta a way like a narrative video or something(im new so maybe i missed something)

and yea 5 years calls for celebration.

Minion · Post by **Minion** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:17 pm

not for the actual hobby i can think of, but i know of a couple that do the history of anime.
i have some old ones in the vault if ya wanna see what the hobby was like "back in the day" (some as far back as 1992, maybe farther)
www.umbrellavideo.com/vault

Kalium · Post by **Kalium** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:26 pm

Where's thorbitzer's thesis when you need it?

dokidoki · Post by **dokidoki** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:35 pm

Kalium wrote:Where's thorbitzer's thesis when you need it?

http://www.doki.ca/tmp/

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:36 pm

yeah! the org looked really cool back then too!! stuff like helpful top 10 lists on the front page!! That's why most of us old timers has at least scene Engle. Cuz it was linked on the front page for so long.

outlawed · Post by **outlawed** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:05 am

tardini wrote:anyway i noticed that there are no videos talking about the history of this hobby

Pre-Internet
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Some people threw clips of their favorite anime together with some music as a lark. They were just happy someone else enjoyed it. Usually these clips were shown at sci-fi cons or the early anime ones (what few there were).

1998-2000
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AMVs started to pick up steam and have more organized pools of creators discussing things online in 1999 on the AMV ML hosted on egroups (egroups would later be taken over by yahoo where the ML still resides today). AMVs online presence truly started during this time frame with some FTPs hosted on college bandwidth. As for the creators there were people with balls who would talk some smack and back it up in in anime convention competitions which were become more frequent and with a larger billing and audience.

2001-2002
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Equipment and anime source eventually became more attainable and pretty soon everyone and their brother made AMVs. This site was made and took off and this turned the small private party into a big free for all. The real AMV creators eventually got bored, got lives, or were just too drunk to care anymore and they disappared from the face of the earth. Historians disagree as to the status of the demi-god Kevin but many believe his mystique grew so great that he transcended into nirvana.

2003-present
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AMV making is referred to as a hobby.

Closing comments
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Ok so I wasn't wholly serious with this post. At the least I can say that a lot is different in the attitudes of who is involved now but people can still enjoy a good amv every now and then and that's the only important thing.

The only thing that has remained constant across the 3 cycles since the internet presence of AMVs are that creators still think people give a shit about their AMV.

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:48 am

I'm a HARDCORE amv thug, bro!!

*cue Kevin Caldwell -> Chuck Norris picture*

tardini · Post by **tardini** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:04 pm

outlawed wrote:
tardini wrote:anyway i noticed that there are no videos talking about the history of this hobby
Pre-Internet
----------------
Some people threw clips of their favorite anime together with some music as a lark. They were just happy someone else enjoyed it. Usually these clips were shown at sci-fi cons or the early anime ones (what few there were).

1998-2000
------------
AMVs started to pick up steam and have more organized pools of creators discussing things online in 1999 on the AMV ML hosted on egroups (egroups would later be taken over by yahoo where the ML still resides today). AMVs online presence truly started during this time frame with some FTPs hosted on college bandwidth. As for the creators there were people with balls who would talk some smack and back it up in in anime convention competitions which were become more frequent and with a larger billing and audience.

2001-2002
------------
Equipment and anime source eventually became more attainable and pretty soon everyone and their brother made AMVs. This site was made and took off and this turned the small private party into a big free for all. The real AMV creators eventually got bored, got lives, or were just too drunk to care anymore and they disappared from the face of the earth. Historians disagree as to the status of the demi-god Kevin but many believe his mystique grew so great that he transcended into nirvana.

2003-present
---------------
AMV making is referred to as a hobby.

Closing comments
----------------------
Ok so I wasn't wholly serious with this post. At the least I can say that a lot is different in the attitudes of who is involved now but people can still enjoy a good amv every now and then and that's the only important thing.

The only thing that has remained constant across the 3 cycles since the internet presence of AMVs are that creators still think people give a shit about their AMV.

HAHA very nice dude, i was thinking about if there would exist something like what you just described here but in a video form like in a narration, it would be cool heh.

ive been searching around and also found references about this kevin guy you mention its funny that in this hobby you would have such personalities thou im unable to find his videos.

sorry to bring all this again i see from the searches it was kinda mentioned before but i just have this obsession of knowing how did things start or were in the past.

the word file in the thesis link is confusing but readable tnx.

Knowname · Post by **Knowname** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:01 pm

look under proxy. Kevin's too bad to be a member of our gang. If Kevin Caldwell fought President Bush he'd beat him up, push him in the corner, steal airforce one and crash it into the white house all without a scratch on his ever so nubile baby soft skin. Kevin Caldwell is god! Kevin Caldwell shall not speak with lowly nubs like us, Kevin Caldwell sleeps with our mommas! Thou shalt ALWAYS keep the name of Kevin Caldwell holy.

No but seriously, look under 'Proxy' or just look up the amv Engel. Kayso's remake is the best though ;p.

RichLather · Post by **RichLather** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:20 pm

Kevin Caldwell was a flash in the pan who disappeared almost as quickly as he appeared. The mystery surrounding that has created its own mythology which is threatening to become greater than anything he contributed.

His stuff was technically sound, but I think if he hadn't swept the California convention contests that one year he'd be but a part of AMV history, instead of being practicallya chapter. Hell, if any of the southeastern/Texan AMV creators had sent stuff that year (snail mail only--this was pre-FTP digital entries) Caldwell might not have swept it.

There, I said it.

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