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An annoying little problem

Post by Krisqo » Tue May 09, 2006 11:45 pm

I've been working with the "Kaleido Stage" dvds and most of the episodes are easy to handle; however, some have this strange blending (I think that's what it is.) Anyway, when converting to *.avi, it is noticible and annoying as hell. I've deinterlaced as though it were Mostly FILM and Mostly Pure Interlaced and both turn up the same problem. I have included a screenshot of the problem along with my AVISynth code. If anyone can explain what is going on here, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Post by guy07 » Wed May 10, 2006 7:02 pm

Did u check the G|U|I|D|E|S? That usually has most of the answers you need.

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Post by Krisqo » Wed May 10, 2006 9:14 pm

I did. Hell I have them printed and in a binder right next to my computer. I'm not some nOOB. I paged through them over and over and it says nothing about this with hybrid footage (as far as i can see) that is mostly pure interlace. I've tried it with the following codes and the result is the same:

Telecide(order=1)
Decimate(cycle=5,mode=3, threshold=1.0)
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Telecide(order=1,post=4)
Decimate(mode=1,threshold=1.0)

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LoadTDeint()
TDeint(mode=1,order=1)
BlendBob()

I'm starting to wonder if it is just a thing with the animation. Either way, it tends to be jerky as hell.
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Post by guy07 » Wed May 10, 2006 9:56 pm

jerky? maybe it's the frame rate

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Post by Krisqo » Wed May 10, 2006 11:28 pm

guy07 wrote:jerky? maybe it's the frame rate
I'll have to check that one. I didn't touch it and all my setting are for 29.97fps. DGIndex also said 29.97 for this episode. If worse comes to worse, I guess I can use Photoshop Elements and remove the frames with the blending. But I've had this happen with other DVDs as well, namely the SoulTaker.

Could it be the strange mixture of Progressive and Interlaced footage in a single ep? Kaleido Star eps 1-5 averages about 55-70% Interlaced according to DGIndex, but the the other 21 are 100% interlaced. I don't see why only some eps are hybrid and others are Telecined.
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Post by Krisqo » Thu May 11, 2006 12:19 pm

Double posting because I cannot edit my last post:

I think I solved the problem. I change mode in Decimte to equal 2 and it cleared up the plending problem.
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Post by Zarxrax » Thu May 11, 2006 3:55 pm

You should not set decimate to 2. This is completely incorrect and is not the way to solve your problem. The screenshot you showed looks like just regular blending artifacts from deinterlacing. The blending also possibly exists in the source, but I doubt it. Try setting post=0 and see if the blending becomes interlacing.

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Post by Zarxrax » Thu May 11, 2006 3:58 pm

Oops, I read that wrong.
I thought you meant you changed cycle=2. Mode=2 would be just fine.

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Post by Krisqo » Fri May 12, 2006 4:24 pm

Switching to mode=2 did solve the problem.
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