YouTube is stealing music videos from from a-m-v.org!

[BasharOfTheAges]

Don't know why people steal.

See, always put your copyright, studio and/or your name in credits of amvs or anything else. If they say that they did make it, then they're having fun with a person's identity, which is pathetic! Those losers.

They've been cutting things like credits out in some cases -- that's where a great deal of the problem comes from. The past 12 pages mention this quite often...

[Knowname]

Since it's my personal belief that it's most creators' goal is to have their work seen, and since the whole thing of ownership is moot anyway, the only issue I could see would be someone blatantly claiming a video was their own creation when it wasn't. I can only speak for myself, but I don't do it.

Never assume; always ask first, it's common courtesy.

I'm with Bashar here. If nothing else, think about all the time and effort that people put into making a video look as good as possible. Seriously, if I'm gonna put up a vid on youtube, I might as well simply render out a smaller file that will stream correctly instead of something that's gonna get resized and tweaked into uglyness.

The ownership is from the hard work and effort that someone puts into making an artistic creation. While the legality of using copyright material is debatable, the original work put in by the editor is what makes an AMV unique. You don't have to agree with me on this, but it seems that dropping the original creator a line and actually asking if they care if you put their video on youtube doesn't seem like a ton of effort. Or, to put it differently, it's people that throw other peoples videos on that site that started this whole quasi-debate in the first place.

see my thought on that, IT'S JUST A HOBBY!! Seriously ppl, you spent alot of time on it, your not gonna get DICK for that time no matter WHAT you do! MY goal in my videos is to get them out and hopefully well liked... I don't see why you'd mind if somebody took the responsibility of distributing it for you. You can talk about rights and how piracy is bad (the irony is how you may even have a POINT there) till your blue in the face.... but it's not gonna change nothin'.

[Pwolf]

see my thought on that, IT'S JUST A HOBBY!! Seriously ppl, you spent alot of time on it, your not gonna get DICK for that time no matter WHAT you do! MY goal in my videos is to get them out and hopefully well liked... I don't see why you'd mind if somebody took the responsibility of distributing it for you. You can talk about rights and how piracy is bad (the irony is how you may even have a POINT there) till your blue in the face.... but it's not gonna change nothin'.

maybe you don't understand the problem... the problem (at least for me) has nothing to do with people distibuting my videos without me knowing or getting any "royalties" for the work do. The problem i have is when people delete credits, claim the video to be their, and delete comments that tell those who would watch the video who the real editor is.

yea it's a hobby. but that doesn't mean that it's supposed to mean nothing to me or anyone else. i have a lot of pride in what i do. it's pretty much the only thing i'm good at. let alone i've met a lot of good people through this. the last 6 years have changed who i am. so when someone deletes comments and calls it theirs for <i>my videos</i>, i take it seriously.


Pwolf

[Knowname]

so would you rather if the ppl said 'thankyou for PROVIDING this video to me'.

I do understand the situation (though maybe I can't fully understand with only 2 videos that nobody likes ;p but anyway) and I can see why ppls first reaction may be anger, but I see no point in retaliation.

[Pwolf]

so would you rather if the ppl said 'thankyou for PROVIDING this video to me'.

I do understand the situation (though maybe I can't fully understand with only 2 videos that nobody likes ;p but anyway) and I can see why ppls first reaction may be anger, but I see no point in retaliation.

id prefer that they not delete comments saying i'm the orginial editor. they don't even have to say anything.

as far as retalition, going any further then asking youtube to remove the video is to much, imo... for the two problem people i ran into, i/other people simply just flaged the video innapropriate and the video was removed the next day.

Pwolf

[Mr Pilkington]

What does it matter Pwolf, no one watches your videos anyway.

Thats like me aksing to stop wacking to MITTERDUNACHT. Of course its my video, youtube told me so when I uploaded it and added my little watermark, but damn, let the people wack!

[Shinodude]

And not only that--the people who steal them from here are impersonating the video creators. Here's one very small example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=QDSpVk_FyZQ

Yes, that's my music video. No, Phantomdarkness is not me. It's a poser. Go ahead and scroll down through the comments; Phantomdarkness takes full credit. But it doesn't stop there. Look at Phantomdarkness' profile. YES--those are OTHER music videos from a-m-v.org, from OTHER video creators! Go ahead. I behoove you to search for some of your music videos; you might be surprised as to what you find. I contacted YouTube about this and received a cookie-cut, useless response about it:

Ok Ricky, here's the formal request we must make of you in order to remove this:

Dear Mr. Alvarez:

We have received your request dated December 21st, 2005 to remove from our site the following video: http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=QDSpVk_FyZQ
(as identified in your email below). In order to take action on your request, we will need to receive a written communication that includes substantially the following (please consult your legal counsel or see Section 512(c)(3) of the Copyright Act to confirm these requirements):

(i) A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

(ii) Identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed, or, if multiple copyrighted works at a single online site are covered by a single notification, a representative list of such works at that site.

(iii) Identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity and that is to be removed or access to which is to be disabled, and information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to locate the material.

(iv) Information reasonably sufficient to permit the service provider to contact the complaining party, such as an address, telephone number, and, if available, an electronic mail address at which the complaining party may be contacted.

(v) A statement that the complaining party has a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

(vi) A statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

Such written notice should be sent to our designated agent as follows:

Heather Gillette
YouTube, Inc.
71 E. Third Avenue
San Mateo, CA 94401
Tel: 650.343.2960
Fax: 650.343.2983
Email: copyright@youtube.com

Please also note that under Section 512(f) any person who knowingly materially misrepresents that material or activity is infringing may be subject to liability.

Very truly yours,
Heather Gillette
YouTube, Inc.

Now, obviously, I don't hold the copyright to the video or audio I used in the video. So there's only one solution.

http://www.youtube.com/results.php?sear ... rch+Videos

Make Evanescence crush YouTube.

WHO'S WITH ME?!?![/i]

im to lazy to read the whole thing but its not youtube taking the amvs its people who have accounts on youtube.com that uplode the amvs

[O-Kagachi]

I occasionally have videos on my myspace, and on my myspace groups, but in the media player i put the name of the amv, and the name of the creator in a bright colored text(usually red, yellow, orange, etc.) so everyone can see who created it. Im currently running one of rurounikeitarou's videos on my shinigami's unanimous group, but I put the correct credits in the header. Youtube isnt doing anything illegal,(technically, yes they are) but I think it's wrong to take credit for other people's works.