Death, the greatest death-metal band ever
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Ted Bundy
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Death, the greatest death-metal band ever
what is everyone's thoughts on Death
He sees the faces of the dead, Guts are strewn from the children, Splintered bones poke through skin, Gratification through castration, Roasting parts for consumption.
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Farlo
- expectations of deliberate annihilation
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Flint the Dwarf
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Kai Stromler
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Chuck is unfortunately doomed to be misunderstood by a lot of people because he had the misfortune of both being a true genius and applying that genius in ways that are not easy to pidgeonhole. Those outside the scene may be inclined to write him off as just another death metal basher, then, when someone corrects them, say something about how it's too bad he had to waste himself on death metal, if he was such a genius.
You idiots. Listen to Human again. If that's wasting oneself, then by all means, musicians, squander your talents away. We need more perfectly constructed records.
By the same token, there are people in the scene who don't get Chuck; who look at one end of his creative output and devalue the rest because it's not like that. Unless you've been in similar shoes, and developed musically and intellectually, it's easy to get stuck and not see why Chuck had to do the brutal stuff on the first three records, had to do the more technical and intricate arrangements on the "brown period" discs, and finally had to declare Death over and start Control Denied. Chuck was always true to himself, and the result is a catalog that does not sound like itself, except within a few basic parameters, but sounds exactly like where Chuck was musically when he recorded it.
Among current bandleaders, only Peter Tagtgren and Mikael Akerfelt can similarly be said to have created first transcendent death metal, then music that transcends death metal, and both of them had a significant amount of help from their bandmates. Chuck had very little creative assistance, despite the technical firepower he was able to gather on the last four Death records, and almost everything worthwhile that Death did was his alone. Among the defunct, there's Carcass, maybe Master, and not much else. The only point of comparison for Chuck, in terms of personal effort, personal genius, and overall impact, is Quorthon -- and Chuck was significantly better technically at both vocals and guitar. (All respect ofcourse to Quorthon and Bathory -- another example of "great musicians taken before their time".)
So, yeah, short version, Chuck > you. But with this avatar, was I going to say anything else?
--K
You idiots. Listen to Human again. If that's wasting oneself, then by all means, musicians, squander your talents away. We need more perfectly constructed records.
By the same token, there are people in the scene who don't get Chuck; who look at one end of his creative output and devalue the rest because it's not like that. Unless you've been in similar shoes, and developed musically and intellectually, it's easy to get stuck and not see why Chuck had to do the brutal stuff on the first three records, had to do the more technical and intricate arrangements on the "brown period" discs, and finally had to declare Death over and start Control Denied. Chuck was always true to himself, and the result is a catalog that does not sound like itself, except within a few basic parameters, but sounds exactly like where Chuck was musically when he recorded it.
Among current bandleaders, only Peter Tagtgren and Mikael Akerfelt can similarly be said to have created first transcendent death metal, then music that transcends death metal, and both of them had a significant amount of help from their bandmates. Chuck had very little creative assistance, despite the technical firepower he was able to gather on the last four Death records, and almost everything worthwhile that Death did was his alone. Among the defunct, there's Carcass, maybe Master, and not much else. The only point of comparison for Chuck, in terms of personal effort, personal genius, and overall impact, is Quorthon -- and Chuck was significantly better technically at both vocals and guitar. (All respect ofcourse to Quorthon and Bathory -- another example of "great musicians taken before their time".)
So, yeah, short version, Chuck > you. But with this avatar, was I going to say anything else?
--K
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Ted Bundy
- Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:00 pm
I also fell extremely saddened by Chuck's death, but if he din't have brain cancer then the greatest of all metal albums ever created would not have been the same (The Sound of Perseverance)
He sees the faces of the dead, Guts are strewn from the children, Splintered bones poke through skin, Gratification through castration, Roasting parts for consumption.
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Ted Bundy
- Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:00 pm
nicely putCatatonik wrote:Chucks influence is still felt on a regular basis, and few bands will ever be able to touch the sublime and brutal majesty that is Death.
He sees the faces of the dead, Guts are strewn from the children, Splintered bones poke through skin, Gratification through castration, Roasting parts for consumption.