Subtitled Lyrics?

prettysoldiersailormoon · Post by **prettysoldiersailormoon** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:30 am

I personally don't like subtitles because I read them instead of watching the video. I don't care if the song is in English, Japanse, French, German, it doesn't matter, I'll still like it. But definitely giving the viewer a choice is a good idea.

AquaSky · Post by **AquaSky** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:06 pm

If it were me, I'd probably leave the clean version on local and have a hardsubbed version as a direct link. Of course, that would depend on whether or not you have your own hosting. Softsubs would work, it's just that the percentage of users who don't have mkv/ogm support might be enough to warrant going the other route (same with having a separate subtitle file - not many folks are going to want to mux their own subs in).

The Wired Knight · Post by **The Wired Knight** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:38 pm

I thought of that but unfortunately I don't have any hosting anywhere that could decently hold an AMV with hardsubs, and I agree that most people don't have the software to support softsubs which creates teh dileema. Normally I wouldn't give the fact that I have a foreign song another thought but since it's a romance AMV it might move too slow if you don't know what is being said.

Qyot27 · Post by **Qyot27** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:46 pm

IcyCloud wrote:(same with having a separate subtitle file - not many folks are going to want to mux their own subs in).

It's not necessary to mux them in manually if they have DirectVobSub installed and the subtitle file has the same filename as the AVI, though. It autoloads as long as the two are in the same directory. The only difficulty there, of course, is getting them to install DirectVobSub.

If it weren't for the fact that I'm starting to use more esoteric encoding standards that require the use of other containers, this would likely be the option I'd take in regards to subtitles. I mean, the subtitles are mainly just sort of an added bonus, and shouldn't be necessary by any means. If they really want to know what's being said but don't want to install DirectVobSub, then they can look up the lyrics or translation somewhere online, if they aren't already provided on the video description page.

requiett · Post by **requiett** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:17 am

Or you could just not use Japanese music at all, since most of it's not that great anyhow.

Zero1 · Post by **Zero1** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:56 am

I recently softsubbed one of my AMVs for the hell of it. I was feature testing MP4 and the ttxt format. Works fine, and I was surprised it did actually since I wasn't aware that it was supported yet.

The srt format is no frills and dead easy to edit. An alternative is ssa where you can specify fonts and styles. Ttxt is just bizarre, it's kind of like ssa meets html. The easiest way around this is to write a srt and convert it to ttxt in mp4box and configure the styles later.

As for container, if you are using softsubs I'd recommend MKV or MP4. Whatever format or container you use, this pack (oh noes codex pack!1!) will play it back with no hassle.

http://www.kickassanime.org/wiki/index. ... le=Compack

If you are familliar with the AMVapp, well this is AMVapp's equivalent for playback. Minimalist installer for the formats that matter. Fixes all your OGM, MKV, MP4, DivX, XviD, H.264, AAC, Vorbis etc. playback in one fell swoop. It's <6 MB too.

I normally wouldn't pimp codec packs of anysort, and being an encoder I'm aware of the problems it can cause, but I've used this myself and it's fine.

My vote is for softsubs. People will be most famillar with MKV over OGM or MP4, and IIRC the tools for creating MKVs are more readilly available and up to date.