MPAA strikes again - No more DVD Decryptor

jade_eyed_angel · Post by **jade_eyed_angel** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:38 pm

oh wow.. didn't know that. that's mesed up though... aren't you technically allowed to like make one personal copy of your dvd.. for yourself or something.. well with cds i know, you can... i think...? well then i have a feeling if someone doesnt make some new program when the dvds have new protection crap a lot of people here will either stop making vids or switch to fansubs....that's sad.

narcted · Post by **narcted** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:34 am

There's something that's always confused me. I can read the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and clearly find where it prohibits the circumvention of copyright protection technology, but on the other side of the issue, where is this so called Constitutional Right to make one single copy for yourself? Yes, I can read the 6 exceptions outlined in section 1202 but they don't in anyway seem related to John Q Public having a DVD to watch at home.

madbunny · Post by **madbunny** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:50 am

narcted wrote:There's something that's always confused me. I can read the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and clearly find where it prohibits the circumvention of copyright protection technology, but on the other side of the issue, where is this so called Constitutional Right to make one single copy for yourself? Yes, I can read the 6 exceptions outlined in section 1202 but they don't in anyway seem related to John Q Public having a DVD to watch at home.

That's because you missed that part in the Constitution where it mentions multi-billion dollar companies that lobby for more power under the law to make yet more money.

the DMC is a direct result of that, and while it has some valid points, I'm thinking that it will always be circumvented in one way or another untill the mega corporations find a way to make originals more appealing. Ultimately, this is why people copy; because it's equivalent in some way to the original. Just like going and seeing a concert live is almost a more memorable experience than buying a CD at tower records, Buying a CD, or DVD needs to have more too it than just burning a copy. The problem isn't the protections, which will always be beaten as long as we have smart, bored, college students.

So, yeah, it's a shame that a well made program like this is gone, but I'm cool with it for now. It's the most well integrated into the AMVapp of anything that I've seen yet. I'm sure that eventually something else will come along that not only rips, but also indexes and creates an .avs file too. (I could be dreaming on that part though..... )

yuppa · Post by **yuppa** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:10 pm

wel another bad thing to happen soon. THE PROCESSORS themselves with ANTI piracy stuff in the chipe. The first set of these to come out will ne for the MAC and pentium systems.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:56 pm

yuppa wrote:wel another bad thing to happen soon. THE PROCESSORS themselves with ANTI piracy stuff in the chipe. The first set of these to come out will ne for the MAC and pentium systems.

Could you list some resources.

I feel like becoming an anarchist. If there going to make things so you can not copy them then I don't want them. Hell I'm an editor and that's the reason I buy a lot of my source footage since it's copyable and it's higher quality and also I try and support companies. What are they trying to do, take away any and all types of fair use?

bum · Post by **bum** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:10 pm

http://www.againsttcpa.com

Have a read through the site. It's possibly one of the biggest threats to our freedom.

FurryCurry · Post by **FurryCurry** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:15 pm

x_rex30 wrote: What are they trying to do, take away any and all types of fair use?

In a word, yes.

Maverick-Rubik · Post by **Maverick-Rubik** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:49 pm

It all comes down to the age-old philosophy of freedom versus security.

Eliminating the ability to make dvds for oneself also eliminates the ability for many to copy the material and use it for unwanted reasons (unauthorized selling). And quite frankly, it wouldn't hurt the companies for people to make copies for themself, so they'd rather get rid of the freedom altogether. But really, they entirely have the right to do it. It's their material, if they don't want it reproduced without their permission they can do it, it's their stuff.

bum · Post by **bum** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:57 pm

So what do you do if you dvd gets scrached and is no longer viewable? When you buy something like a music cd, dvd movie or game you dont actualy buy the product. What you buy is a licence to use it. When you backup a dvd you bought your protecting a license you own.

Oh and the TCPA thing is much more than an anti-piracy measure.

x_rex30 · Post by **x_rex30** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:20 am

Maverick-Rubik wrote:But really, they entirely have the right to do it. It's their material, if they don't want it reproduced without their permission they can do it, it's their stuff.

I didn't know they had complete permission to put copyright protection on it, I mean it makes total sense since it IS there's. Man that concept didn't even strike me. I was sure it was illegal.