I was thinking that along with a star rating people could type a quick sentence on what they thought. It'd be just like newgrounds. We could have wonderful comments like "this vid sucks cock" or "I would have sex with this video if it was a human". Etc!
Actually it could be a moderator nightmare, though if you put the ability for the creator to hide all comments/certain comments from the public that'd work excellent to.
These would not be full opinions, it would just let people say something quick. It's for the lazy & I think creators would enjoy getting a short sentence back on what someone thought rather than just a few points to the star scale.
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I think klinky's proposal reflects a certain amount of pressure to give some feedback without going through the trouble of a full-blown opinion. You can see this happening in the Video Announcements forum more and more. For the sake of niceness, almost all these comments are positive and while they might feel good, they don't really help the creator that much. The star ratings are quick, but besides being unhelpful, they're also impersonal since one person's rating gets buried in the mass average.
Here's another idea along the same line: a new forum where comments are freely given on AMVs, generally no-holds barred. Unlike attaching comments to star ratings, this idea puts the commentary into an arena that is already being moderated.
As for rules, let's say one could only comment on a vid that was submitted for it. Only the vid's creator could submit it, and only one vid per thread, and maybe only one vid per week/month per creator to avoid having someone dump twenty vids into the hopper at one time.
It would need to be clear that by starting a thread for his vid, the creator should be prepared to take whatever comes his way. That would include no response at all from anyone.
If things got too nasty, the mods could just lock the thread the same way they do now in any other forum. Or, if the creator decided that he's had enough, then at his request lock the thread or just stop giving comments.
Other than having an entire new forum to manage, this doesn't change the mods' responsibilities that much. One drawback is that people may start leaving fewer responses in the main opinion database. But this is compensated by even more feedback, if in shorter form.
Here's another idea along the same line: a new forum where comments are freely given on AMVs, generally no-holds barred. Unlike attaching comments to star ratings, this idea puts the commentary into an arena that is already being moderated.
As for rules, let's say one could only comment on a vid that was submitted for it. Only the vid's creator could submit it, and only one vid per thread, and maybe only one vid per week/month per creator to avoid having someone dump twenty vids into the hopper at one time.
It would need to be clear that by starting a thread for his vid, the creator should be prepared to take whatever comes his way. That would include no response at all from anyone.
If things got too nasty, the mods could just lock the thread the same way they do now in any other forum. Or, if the creator decided that he's had enough, then at his request lock the thread or just stop giving comments.
Other than having an entire new forum to manage, this doesn't change the mods' responsibilities that much. One drawback is that people may start leaving fewer responses in the main opinion database. But this is compensated by even more feedback, if in shorter form.
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It doesn't <i>have</i> to be that way though. I've seen a fair bit of useful, constructive criticism going on on that board as well (heck, there's even useless flat-out negativity in some cases) -- and I'd always been under the impression that anyone posting in AMV Announcements <i>should</i> be prepared to take whatever they get (some clearly aren't, but those are few and far between).TaranT wrote:I think klinky's proposal reflects a certain amount of pressure to give some feedback without going through the trouble of a full-blown opinion. You can see this happening in the Video Announcements forum more and more. For the sake of niceness, almost all these comments are positive and while they might feel good, they don't really help the creator that much.
I don't know if the new board you propose would serve a sufficiently distinct purpose from AMV Announcements to warrant creating it.
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u know there are two sides that im trying to pick between on this right now. yeah it will be nice to hear a comment from people more often than you get opinions. but like the people that throw a random star rating in I think the response of "
" will be beaten to death quicker than you can imagine. which leads to the bads. because people can write a short sentence rather than an entire opinion ... the # of opinions given out will drop. Wich will lead to a top 10% board that is even more stagnant than it already is.
I feel that a creator shouldn't just wait for opinions and feedback to come to them. yeah we all appreciate it when it does. but Hell, its your video, you worked on it. Now go out and promote it in the Op exchange... wether its checking out the free ops, or trading ops with other creators. if you happen to become a creator with a reputation like Ermac, or AD, or many others you the amount of opinions that will come in on their own might increase. but until that day, you might have to work for it. Promoting the video is just another part of the creation process to me.

I feel that a creator shouldn't just wait for opinions and feedback to come to them. yeah we all appreciate it when it does. but Hell, its your video, you worked on it. Now go out and promote it in the Op exchange... wether its checking out the free ops, or trading ops with other creators. if you happen to become a creator with a reputation like Ermac, or AD, or many others you the amount of opinions that will come in on their own might increase. but until that day, you might have to work for it. Promoting the video is just another part of the creation process to me.