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Post by Wheee_It's_Me! » Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:55 pm

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Anyone whose even the least bit familiar with the data pirating community knows who I am and just how good *my* encodes are (meaning stuff that I've ripped off my own DVDs). Name a single person or group who released a better encode of the special edition CCS movie II
And how much of that was just filtering and noise reduction methods?
I actually went through and examined every scene in the movie, split it completely apart and then only applied filters, deinterlacing and so forth to SPECIFIC parts, then rejoined them all back together. In some respects, my encode is acually superior to that of the original...although considering how BADLY they encoded that special edition CCS movie II, I guess that not saying a WHOLE lot. As far as I know I'm also the ONLY encoder who actually takes the time and bother to do ALL the DVD extras, CD art, box art, etc, etc.

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Post by AbsoluteDestiny » Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:59 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:As far as I know I'm also the ONLY encoder who actually takes the time and bother to do ALL the DVD extras, CD art, box art, etc, etc.

************************disclaimer************************
The only people who can download my CCS Movie II encode are people
who ACTUALLY OWN the DVD, like me, who wish to have a backup.
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Why do you need the box art if you are only making the rip for people to have as a backup?

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:59 pm

I actually went through and examined every scene in the movie, split it completely apart and then only applied filters, deinterlacing and so forth to SPECIFIC parts, then rejoined them all back together.
So you changed the source material yet proclaim it to be an exelent job at the compression level? I could teach a fucking child to make a really nice encode if I give him a really nice source.

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Post by Wheee_It's_Me! » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:01 pm

Kalium wrote:Hatter, I just want to correct your view of the demographic at work here. While much of the site may fall into the 12-13 range, the editors tend to be old and have a greater degree of technical knowledge. After all, editing neccessitates a degree of knowledge of the medium.

Anyway, Tab does do encoding. He has been thanked for encoding help by more than one fairly prominent member of this connumity. (No, I'm not claiming me, but it remains.)
The vast majority of AMVs that are made are created using WMM...which does not neccessitate ANY degree of knowledge regarding the medium. My post was NOT refering to people whom I consider "top level" AMV editors, who in most situations wouldn't even bother asking such questions here because they would have the knowledge and understanding to and look them up themselves.

My point was that when Tab responds to people he doesn't seem to "keep his audience in mind". Obviously if he was replying to a "top level" AMV editor he could be a lil more on the technical side, but if he's responding to a question to someone who he doesn't know anything about he shouldn't make the assumption that they are a "top level" editor.

And of course, the other big point was that Tab has SERIOUS control issues, it's like he's gotta be right ALL the time and can't leave ANY room for error cause heaven forbid he ever used the words, "I don't know" or "I'm not sure". :roll:

Heck I'm a magnificent arrogant bastard myself and even I on occasion have just point blank said, "I don't know." It's not that hard, really.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:02 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote:Why do you need the box art if you are only making the rip for people to have as a backup?
I'm assuming it's the same people who back up DVDs to CDRs in a video format their DVD player can't even read. ^_^
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Post by Wheee_It's_Me! » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:03 pm

AbsoluteDestiny wrote: Why do you need the box art if you are only making the rip for people to have as a backup?
What if your copy was caught in a fire and it burned up the box?

What if your dog got a hold of the box and mangled it up (but not the DVD)? Then you could just print off a copy of the box art, get a new case and VIOLA.

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:09 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:What if your copy was caught in a fire and it burned up the box?
Call the insurance company? Since, we can assume this is some sort of house fire. If you were just playing 'What happens when I put my DVD next to a candle' you deserve to lose it.
Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:What if your dog got a hold of the box and mangled it up (but not the DVD)? Then you could just print off a copy of the box art, get a new case and VIOLA.
1) Kill the dog.
2) Something other than printing it out, because my HP OfficeJet 700 pales in comparison to the quality of the printing that was on the original.

Look, give it a break, okay? You're a theif giving things to other theives. Just say it. I do, all the time. I'm torrenting complete anime DVD ISO's right now. Are these back ups? Hah, no, no they arn't. Their stolen content, but at least I'll admit it. :}
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Post by Wheee_It's_Me! » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:10 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote: So you changed the source material yet proclaim it to be an exelent job at the compression level? I could teach a fucking child to make a really nice encode if I give him a really nice source.
The encoding job was also superb, although rather on the complex side. You see, encoding is a form of art because there are so many different things that you're dealing with, often times in a limited environment and you need to find the right balance between them. This is ESPECIALLY true when you're making OGM files with multiple audio tracks, subtitle tracks, etc and you need the whole package to be under 703mb in size (for ease of transport and stoarage on CDR). But then, obviously you also want to make the most USE out of the 703mb. I believe my encode came in at like 1 or 2kb just under the 703mb limit. That in itself should say quite a bit about my encoding skill as those "bit rate calculators" don't give accurate estimates when you factor in things lke multipass encoding.

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Post by Wheee_It's_Me! » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:16 pm

DJ_Izumi wrote: Call the insurance company? Since, we can assume this is some sort of house fire. If you were just playing 'What happens when I put my DVD next to a candle' you deserve to lose it.
So what if you live in an apartment complex, don't have/can't afford fire insurance and the idiot fuckhead who lives right below you sets his place on fire which then in turn burns your place down?
1) Kill the dog.
That won't magically make the cover art come back.
2) Something other than printing it out, because my HP OfficeJet 700 pales in comparison to the quality of the printing that was on the original.
So get a better printer, or go down to like Total Office Concepts and ask to use one of their lazer color printers, they don't charge very much and it's only like 50 cents a copy.
Look, give it a break, okay? You're a theif giving things to other theives. Just say it.
I'm a pirate actually and I do not make it very easy to obtain that which I pirate. Most people are stuck with the craptastic A-G encode since they simply do not know how to get my encode...unless of course they're a REAL data pirate.

I do however own the DVD. I own the DVDs of all the shows and movies that I REALLY like, the ones that actually hold some level of sentimental value to me.
I do, all the time. I'm torrenting complete anime DVD ISO's right now. Are these back ups? Hah, no, no they arn't. Their stolen content, but at least I'll admit it. :}
Yes well I believe it kinda goes against the "forum rules" or whatever so I'm trying to be low key about it. :wink:

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Tue Jul 27, 2004 2:17 pm

Wheee_It's_Me! wrote:This is ESPECIALLY true when you're making OGM files with multiple audio tracks, subtitle tracks, etc and you need the whole package to be under 703mb in size (for ease of transport and stoarage on CDR).
The fuck it is. The only difference between AVI and OGM jobs is having to do the audio twice, (Oh wow, AC3->OGG conversion... M4D SKILLZ NECESSARIEZ!!! O_O) and spell/time check the the SRT script generated by the computer from the subtitle subpictures, since of course, we all know OCR isn't quite perfect. I could take your fucking OGM encode, load it into Vdubmod, drop the Japanese audio and subtitles and save it as an AVI without changing the streams themselves. Like it's THAT fucking hard?
OGM, AVI, MKV, same fucking deal, you just have to encode a video stream that dosn't suck ass, and it's not that hard to do. The only think you're doing is filtering the source material, that's not encoding, that's just filtering and it has NO relevance with this discussion.
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