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Post by J-0080 » Mon May 17, 2004 9:52 pm

ryuu_hime13 wrote:
J-0080 wrote:I know GITS2 is getting a late summer theaterical release. Though I've yet to see any theater lists or show dates.
What is GITS2?
Ghost in the Shell 2.
SharatheBoring wrote:So you seriously, after much thought, still think that every. single. solitary. character. in. anime - the aforementioned Beyblade, MD Geist, ohhh let's see, every knockoff of Gundam, every hentai movie, EVERY SINGLE ANIME CHARACTER EVER PUT TO FILM... every background dude with one line, every comedic sidekick, every random cute animal...

is "deeper" and "less predictable" than every single character ever, ever put to live-action film?

I doubt he ment every single character. :roll:
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Post by J-0080 » Mon May 17, 2004 9:54 pm

:?

I really messed that quote up.
paizuri wrote:There's also no need for introductions because we're generally a friendly bunch and will welcome you with wide open arms anyway.

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Post by Castor Troy » Mon May 17, 2004 11:21 pm

This thread screams... "I need to go outside more"

It's funny how people say how anime characters are all deep and meaningful then they complain about DBZ.

Fucking hypocrites. :evil:
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Post by SarahtheBoring » Tue May 18, 2004 5:59 pm

J, the people who are claiming that didn't say that, somebody else did. rubyeye said that EVERY anime character is better than EVERY live action character, EVER. No exceptions, EVER. It was a blanket statement.
Castor Troy wrote:This thread screams... "I need to go outside more"

It's funny how people say how anime characters are all deep and meaningful then they complain about DBZ.

Fucking hypocrites. :evil:
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There is good and bad anime. There are good and bad movies. There are good and bad examples of EVERYTHING. Saying "All anime is awesum and teh d33p!" is naive. I give you Mon Colle Knights, people. Reign the Conqueror. You're saying that beats something like Kurosawa movies? Um, no.

As for anime being nonlinear and more "creative" than every live-action film - kiddo, you need to watch less Hollywood and more independent films before you start slinging that accusation, okay? Modern-day Hollywood != all film.

And I'm done. Anyone who isn't listening now is never gonna learn.

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Post by Rorschach » Tue May 18, 2004 9:03 pm

I don't recall anyone saying "all" animes are better than their American counterparts. (Pokemon, anyone? Excuse me while I throw up.) Arguably, maybe what we're getting is "filtered" so that only the best stuff gets through. Then again, maybe not: anything that anyone cares to watch is likely to turn up in America one way or another. If the official distributors ignore something because they don't think it will sell, the fansub groups bring it over here anyway. Japan's B-list animes are at least available to those who know where to look for them.

I certainly do filter out bad animes according to my own preferences, but I also filter out bad American movies (except when I'm in an MST3K mood). Hence, what I'm comparing is the cream of both crops. For some reason, anime seems to provide more of what I like with less need to dig through crap for it. Whether comparing animation to live movies is fair is a slightly murkier issue: I suspect that Japanese live-action films compare to Hollywood's flicks about the same way that American animation compares to anime. Haven't really seen very many live-action Japanese pieces, though, so I couldn't say for sure. Same goes for TV, which I suspect is probably equally crappy in both nations.

I guess what influences my views of the two media is just that I'm able to find a lot more gems in the annual Japanese anime line-ups than I am in the annual American movie line-ups. Hollywood seems to be in one of its long lethargic periods right now, and needs another boost from something like the early Star Wars movies or The Matrix. Anime doesn't produce a lot of really stellar stuff (not everybody can make another Spirited Away), but I do find it produces a lot of consistently good stuff. (Scryed, for one.)

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Post by Mroni » Wed May 19, 2004 4:02 am

I dont think you will ever find an anime the same calibre as Films such as Hunt for red october or the new Troy movie. Anime does have it's limits. However that being said the chicks are hotter in anime.


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Post by Daio Kaji » Wed May 19, 2004 12:41 pm

Mroni wrote:I dont think you will ever find an anime the same calibre as Films the new Troy movie.

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x2... for cinematic battle scequences, you gotta have live-action... though anime gets damn close, in the bebop movie, Spike's last fight with what's-his-face was pretty damn good
Mroni wrote:Anime does have it's limits. However that being said the chicks are hotter in anime.
..only in general, if you use specific examples, i think a live-action chick would come out on top [no sexual pun intended, but any are welcome :wink: ]
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Post by Declan_Vee » Wed May 19, 2004 1:01 pm

Definitely not. I find that there are few to no anime movies that can stand up against their live-action counterparts. To prove this I'm goin to use:

The Fellowship of the Ring, Terminator 2 and... (where's my sister for this...) Kate and Leopold

And this is where I ask you to name some superior anime movies for the given genres. I'm not going to go into television, because in general it's crap anyway.
Mroni wrote: However that being said the chicks are hotter in anime.
Well we can sleep soundly knowing that now can't we?
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Post by GuessingWrong » Wed May 19, 2004 6:29 pm

Art Form in the true sense of the word
I believe that movies, animated or not, are all considered "art". Cinematography anyone? I might be misunderstanding the meaning of cinematography here but it IS considered as an art form.
Ironic that "live action" characters are so 2-dimensionally flat, predictable, and boring...while 2D characters have more depth and personality making them far more real and believable.
I sure need to watch more animes if it's truly the case. :S
With Hollywood movies and TV, live-action or animated, the villain is nearly always mindlessly evil, crazy, or both. The hero is always the really cool guy, or the geek who's on his way to being a really cool guy. In anime, heros and villains are often harder or nearly impossible to tell apart. The heros sometimes act in ways that make us doubt whether they're really heros, and the villains are usually quite convinced that they're the ones doing heroic deeds; they're not just doing bad deeds because the plot requires someone to do them.
I have the weird sensation that anime often uses the goody goody hero and the simply evil vilain quite often. *Thinks*
Must... put Togari on... anime series/ovas. A hero closer to the devil than the other protagonists. :D
And some more, unfortunately the only animes I've seen often have a hero too nice for his own good and all. Suggestions anyone?
Anyway, A lot of arguments here are valuable, I therefore choose:
Anime. Why? Because I don't know enough movies to compare them with animes. Although some Quebec movies (and some others I can't remember) are highly better than 98% of the animes I've seen. Unfortunately not enough to start going to the theaters more often.
I do watch more TV though, they are called Animal Planet and Discovery Channel with a hint of funny shows here and there.

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Post by azulmagia » Wed May 19, 2004 7:06 pm

J-0080 wrote:I know GITS2 is getting a late summer theaterical release. Though I've yet to see any theater lists or show dates.
It's being screened at Cannes.

http://www.amvdefans.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=972

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