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Post by ooshna » Mon May 10, 2004 10:32 pm

Well I found my problem it was the resizing so i decides to leave the size the same but now the video is 100MB if you want to see it go here http://www.ooshna.com I decided to post it on my homepage to see if I get any responce.

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Post by Songbird21 » Mon May 10, 2004 11:24 pm

Since my part of this project is so short, do you guys mind if I do a second piece? It's also short so don't worry. It's to an extremly edited version of Hoe-down by Aaron Copland. I chopped it down from 4:31 to 1:05 I like my new version much better. Got rid of all the parts of the song that sounded distinctly "cow-boyish".

I'm uploading it to the FTP right now (Should be done in less than 14 minutes.) if anyone wants to give it a listen. I really need feedback on how my version (Which I call Splendor) sounds. I need to know if there are any noticable "jumps" in the audio from one section of the song to the next.

Thanks guys. :)
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Post by Otohiko » Tue May 11, 2004 9:13 pm

ooshna - watched the video - not too shabby, and I guess I do sympathise with the simple editing style. It seemed like the ending was a bit... sudden - on the other hand, I haven't seen Akira yet, so it might just be me.

anubisx - well, I can see the angle you're taking here. I like the musical choice, so hopefully you can keep it up and pull off a good, dramatic video there. It's still hard to pinpoint exactly where and how to improve it - we'll see as you get further along. Just try to keep focused on the story, since it seems that's what you're going for.
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Post by ooshna » Tue May 11, 2004 10:40 pm

Yeah i cut off about 20 secs from the end (it was the same thing over and over) i thought it would get boring and repetitive.

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Post by pen-pen2002 » Tue May 11, 2004 11:01 pm

I have a bit of a quandry. I've decided that I would like to show my AMV at a convention but I'm not sure which one. It seems that conventions are the best way to get a lot of people to see your video and I think mine would look really cool on a big screen. I'm new to the convention scene though, and I'm not sure what convention would be best (and I never realized how many AMV contests there were.) All the ones I've heard of have already had dealines pass. I'm also thinking of entering it into the Globocide contest. Do most conventions require you to premire the video at that convention? Should I look for a big or a small convention? Anyways, sorry for the newbishness (If it's not a word it should be) and I would apriciate advice from anyone who has more experience than I do at this sort of thing.
Otohiko wrote: anubisx - well, I can see the angle you're taking here. I like the musical choice, so hopefully you can keep it up and pull off a good, dramatic video there. It's still hard to pinpoint exactly where and how to improve it - we'll see as you get further along. Just try to keep focused on the story, since it seems that's what you're going for.
It seems you and me have very difernent takes on that 30 seconds of footage, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.
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Post by Songbird21 » Wed May 12, 2004 1:22 am

Songbird21 wrote:Since my part of this project is so short, do you guys mind if I do a second piece? It's also short so don't worry. It's to an extremly edited version of Hoe-down by Aaron Copland. I chopped it down from 4:31 to 1:05 I like my new version much better. Got rid of all the parts of the song that sounded distinctly "cow-boyish".

I'm uploading it to the FTP right now (Should be done in less than 14 minutes.) if anyone wants to give it a listen. I really need feedback on how my version (Which I call Splendor) sounds. I need to know if there are any noticable "jumps" in the audio from one section of the song to the next.

Thanks guys. :)

Pleeeeaaaassssse guys? I need to know ASAP in case I need to start collecting footage.
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Otohiko
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Post by Otohiko » Wed May 12, 2004 9:06 am

Songbird - would be on it right now... if rose4emily didn't forget to move it to the outbox and set permissions for it :roll: Don't worry, I'll check it as soon as it comes in.

As for cons - I wouldn't worry about what to enter it into too much, except the length concerns. Look for cons that allow you videos longer than 6 minutes - then narrow your choice down from there.

But unless you have priority targets here - here's a suggested one where I popped a couple of mine, and they're definitely looking for more entries. It's not a huge event, but well-organized and even has FTP submission...

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=33406
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Post by rose4emily » Wed May 12, 2004 6:53 pm

Somehow I don't think the e-mail reply notification is working for me anymore.

Sorry about letting stuff sit in the Inbox all this time - very busy finishing projects and the like. I still have one left before I can take a breather on finals week (damn, I go to a school where finals week is like a vacation compared to everyday class), but I'll transfer everything over now. Really should have found a way to automate that, but just don't have time.

As for where to put a cut-off for the project: I think DownWithPants has a point on how much footage we have together, without the narrative pieces we still have to make and insert between the videos, and that we should probably say that anyone who hasn't asked to join the project by now should wait for this thing's sequel. For an actual end date, I'm thinking Fri, July 2nd would be a good compromise between giving everyone time to finish off the ideas they're working on and getting the final project out in a timely fashion. Because the project has to be assembled before it's released and the videos (and narratives) have to be done before it can be assembled, it'd be good to have all of the pieces in before that date.

As to how the narratives are to be done: I'm thinking it'd be a good idea for someone (maybe me) to create a nice, clean vector image of a fancy stage situation with two screens (one 4:3 and the other 16:9), a place for a virtual narrator, and some film-strip looking things with holes that can be used as masks for stills out of our videos. That, I think, would allow us to give the narrations a nice, "finished" appearence, deal with the two aspect-ratio thing, play off of the look of the stage in Fantasia, and keep the narration portion manageable. I should be able to put together the image and handle the compositing after I get out of school in a week. As to the narrator itself, we could try using lip-synced anime characters, video footage of a real human being, or something we cook up ourselves (a Flash character or something like that, I've seen some really nice stuff done in Flash along those lines). Could also cheat and use a robot-type narrater with some lightly vododed vocals to skip the lip-sync altogether, given the amount of speech that'd go into talking about such a large number of videos.

And I finally got around to watching Evangelion. Wow, that was weird - very good, but weird. Also makes me wonder what I should think of what are essentially three very different proposed endings (though I've heard End of Evangelion makes things a bit more explicit, if even darker). Anyhow, I can now finally understand all the EVA videos out there - not to mention Pen-Pen's handle.

Gainax seems to have a way of making you like the characters just before tearing them apart, and of tricking you into thinking you're watching a comedy despite all foreknowledge of where you're heading. Good for them.

Why is it always my videos that are singled out for length. I'm pretty sure that if you put "Requiem for a Nightmare" and "The Wasteland" end to end they'd be longer than 13'34" :).
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Post by Otohiko » Wed May 12, 2004 7:10 pm

Well, I'm actually not that far from you in length - 7:30+5:10= 12:40, just a minute short of your video... and if I finished another one...

And besides, for me the length of your video is actually a big plus, since this is the first video I've seen that I consider both long and well-edited. Not everyone will probably see it that way, but I have a good impression of it.

I'll give this editing thing a shot sometime within the next couple of weeks - but I don't think anyone will be mad if I don't finish anything else by June 2nd. The date sounds perfectly fine to me.

And good you watched Eva now. Now you can see The Wasteland again - it might make a lot more sense in the context of the story. Might not...
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Post by rose4emily » Wed May 12, 2004 7:40 pm

Oh, on Bebop footage:

I honestly don't know where you can get the DVDs right now. Even the mighty Amazon.com seems to be out of stock most of the time, so I guess you'd have to take your chances on E-Bay or look for some brick-and-mortar store specializing in anime (if such things exist).

I have .ogm versions, which are compressed, but at least without subs in the video stream. I dunno if that'd be any good for what you need to do, but I could extract the video stream from the .ogms and post a few episodes that way. I don't know of any Windows tools for pulling an .ogm apart into its componant streams, but I'm pretty sure MEncoder on Linux can do that. You'd have no audio, but for AMV making that's really a good thing - why fill disk space with audio you are just going to discard.

I've yet to do an AMV with the luxery of uncompressed footage (no spare money until I go back to work this summer), but few have complained about my footage quality (timing - definately, excessively long cuts - on a few occasions, footage - not so much). What it does seem to really cut into is how much compression you get get away with in the final product, where some data has already been lost.
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