Top 10% List "Score" Modified

Org Profile · Post by **Phade** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:36 pm

Hey,

Preview button, man, preview button...

Phade.

mckeed · Post by **mckeed** » Wed May 05, 2004 2:55 pm

funny thing is i did use it. I only checked the first quote. I'm just a dumbass.

But anyway, I think the method i suggested might be pretty decent for the purpose it would serve. I don't know what information is stored in the database so i don't know. Maybe you can post it in the programmers forum. I could try to think of something if i knew what information I was looking at.

Rozard · Post by **Rozard** » Wed May 05, 2004 4:49 pm

I say we leave this site as a catalogue only, and to leave an opinion, you can e-mail the creator 8) People get too worked up over review scores and where their video ranks that it pits people against each other.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Wed May 05, 2004 5:10 pm

So what it comes down to is you have to put your videos on local download or win a few cons for them to get noticed. Personal hosting is just convienient for hosting multiple versions.

I'm just playing. I think he top ten is very nice now.

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Wed May 05, 2004 6:18 pm

Here's a new suggestion thats maybe totally unrelated to the discussion at hand, but still related in a way I suppose.
This suggestion would go for both the star scale and the opinions.
How about make it so that the ratings are scaled towards the average? What I mean is like, say someone has an average rating of 4.2 for the videos they have rated on the star scale. This type of person either only downloads good videos, or is very generous in giving high scores. What I would propose is that this person's "5" scores cary less weight than the "5"s of someone with an average of say, 2.95.
Similarly on the opinions, if someone averages giving 8's and 9's, make their high scores worth less than high scores from someone that averages 5s and 6s.

I suck at mathematics, so maybe this isn't a very good way of doing things. Just happened to pop into my head though.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Wed May 05, 2004 6:22 pm

The way I see it, this method only really works for people who

a) leave a lot of opinions

and

b) review a variety of videos in terms of quality.

I can't seeing more than 5% of the reviewers on the org satisfying both those criteria.

Scintilla · Post by **Scintilla** » Wed May 05, 2004 6:49 pm

Corran Productions wrote:So what it comes down to is you have to put your videos on local download or win a few cons for them to get noticed. Personal hosting is just convienient for hosting multiple versions.

It's odd, I guess... personally, the only reasons I host alternate versions of my videos are
1) for the people who can't play MPEG-4-based AVIs (and therefore would prefer MPEG-1s)
2) for the people who don't want to have to give stars, because I'm like that myself
3) for the people who can't DL local videos because of the waiting period

And because not all my videos fit on my college webspace anymore, I'm paying for it.

Corran · Post by **Corran** » Wed May 05, 2004 8:06 pm

That is what I do too... well except for my Iron chef videos.

Org Profile · Post by **Otohiko** » Wed May 05, 2004 8:08 pm

My star rating is about 4.40

And yes, I download mostly good videos and give mostly positive ops. But that doesn't mean I'm not constructive, detailed, or useful for that matter.

I mean, come on. What's wrong if a person is too bloody optimistic about what other people make? Does that suddenly make me not credible in any way?

Beowulf · Post by **Beowulf** » Wed May 05, 2004 8:24 pm

What I think the main thing people are upset over is exposure. If your video is on the top ten, you get more hits. Period. And if your in the first 20 slots on the top ten you get about 5 times the hits of everything below. And if your in the first 10 slots, you get about 20 times that amount. I was getting roughly 100 hits a day when I was in the top 20 spots on that list. Its absolutely astounding how many people download almost exclusively from it.

What the top ten effectively does (at least to active members) is catapult someone into instant fame (fame being a very relative term, especially in the context of this community). Fame = more downloads and social clout. Who doesn't want that?

I like the new system, as I feel it adds a breath of much needed legitimacy to the list. On the old system there was a lot of shit that absolutely did NOT deserve to be up there, and most of that is gone now. The classics are back up top where they deserve to be.

What I think is the best thing to come of this new system is that it encourages people to get their own websites and hosting and not just leech off the org. Now you actually have to have talent now to make it up on the top ten and unless your a forum junkie, no one is going to give a shit about your videos. Rightfully so I say

One more point I think is worth mentioning to people concerned about the lack of exposure is that the org isn't the end-all-be-all of the AMV world. Half of the bandwidth that HypeO pulls comes exclusively from our website. I think it would be a shame for people to under-estimate the potential of the general internet. If your good, word of mouth will spread about you, and that is the best type of publicity.

I don't know if I'm alone on this, but I'm personally disgusted when I see people making oscar type adds for their upcomming videos or making "comming soon videos", or having quotes from people in the video's profile like its some kind of fucking stick of deoderant or something, or (the worst) putting trailers for your next video at the end of your current video. All this disgusting promotion is, I feel, a reaction from creators who just aren't that great and are trying desperately to get their word out.

This post did have some sort of central message but it got lost along the way. Oh well, get a website and don't leech off the org!