Seeking advice from the masters.

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Post by NicholasDWolfwood » Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:31 pm

ErMaC wrote:Thanks very much for the praise. Hopefully TommyRude won't find his way in here and flame you for being an ErMaC Fanboy. :)

I don't think there are really any "secrets" exactly to give out. Basically I just make videos. I think that if you come up with a good concept, flesh it out, and stick to it, you're set. A good concept not only involves the actual song/anime choice and possible plot, but also the editing style. I think consistency of editing is important, although this rule can be broken with good reason (take the last portion of "The End of Me" for example).

That is one thing worth mentioning too - any "rules" that people can come up with can be broken under the right circumstances. Most of the times the "rules" are there to keep people from being stupid. Take the rule "don't combine letterboxed and fullscreen footage in the same video." A very wise rule, I would say, and 99% of the time it's right. But Kevin broke that in "Engel" as an effect during the solo section, and it worked, because he knew what he was doing and broke the rule on purpsoe. Same thing with the "Use good source footage" rule. MeriC broke this bigtime with "All-Purpose DBZ Music Video" but he did it for a reason - he even tripped out the analog tracking on his VCR to make things look WORSE. :)

Anyways just sit down and edit. If I were editing music videos for other people all the time I wouldn't still be making AMVs. All of my good videos are videos that I would want to watch again. In fact I still have all my AMVs with me here in Japan (the ones encoded to XviD) because I enjoy watching them. If you can make a video that you still enjoy watching a year after you've made it then you're doing something right.

I agree. I only make videos because it's enjoyable to me, and I like doing it. I don't care if other people don't like my vids, I make videos for personal enjoyment.

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Re: Seeking advice from the masters.

Post by shinto » Fri Aug 30, 2002 1:55 pm

Tycho2k wrote:HOLY SHINTO
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Post by Machine » Fri Aug 30, 2002 2:19 pm

Follow your heart.... :D

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Post by Ashton » Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:29 pm

Oh how typical... I feel like I'm in some cheesy sports anime.. ^_^ (it is really freaking hard to make smiley faces with this keyboard) I never made AMV for my own pleasure... I was always making them with the idea of other in my mind. Then again... I'm not really popular at all.. so I'm probably a horrible example. I would also like to mention that my worst (least popular) video (my most recent one) is the one that most pleased me. So... it is possible that you can't make all inclusive rules about that kind of thing... whatever...
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Post by Tycho2k » Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:33 pm

Wow! I am quite pleased with the turnout of this thread! Thanks to everyone for your input, it gave me just the boost I needed to get back into the editing saddle. Honestly, my ultimate goal (In my little fantasy world of mine) is to simply be known by people that I don't know personally. To see my name come up just once in a place like this (positivly, I would like to think) by someone I don't know personally, and I could die a happy man. :) Anyway, I guess that is enough babbling out of me!

Note: Shinto, I apologize for any confusion, I was unaware of anyone on the forums with your name, and I was mearly trying to give the good ol' Knights of Standards and Practices a little break.
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Post by silver_moon » Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:28 am

Here's my advice: don't just throw your videos together and expect them to look great. You have to spend a long, long time on your videos. Videos like Vlad's "Memories Dance" and ErMaC's "Soul of an Angel" where not projects that took from just 1-2 hours or so. A lot of time was taken on them (I assume) and any video that has a lot of time put into it usually turns out better than average. Be picky. Take the time to go back and fix anything in your video that is off-beat or needs work. People have different ideas on what "a long time" is for work on a video, since some people like VicBond007 and Vlad spend hundreds of hours on their videos while 30-70 hours is usually enough for me to be happy with my work.

But effort isn't everything. A good concept or some emotion put into your video will usually help. Being artistic and/or having a unique style can help too. Wait for inspiration to hit you. Don't just say "well, I guess this song is good enough". Look for a song until one just strikes you as being perfect. And even just a little bit of planning can help a lot so that you don't use scenes up too fast, or so you can solidify your concept before you start working.

Ideas are also a big factor. Ideas on how you're going to edit a certain line in the music, ideas on concepts, ideas on certain efffects (if you use them) and just ideas in general make a video much more interesting.

Erm... yeah... so even though I'm not a master like some of those guys up there who posted before me... those are my thoughts and I hope they're useful^_^ Good luck editing^_^

And, as Machine said... "Follow your heart" :D
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Post by NME » Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:37 am

Plus, if you have an idea, for gods sakes CHECK IF ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE. We don't need more clone videos. Just do what makes you happy, damned if other people like it, but don't become repetitive (whatever that means)
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Post by Rozard » Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:39 am

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Post by Rozard » Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:40 am

Just because an idea has been done doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't make that video if you feel so inclined. Everyone has a different take on things. Who knows, your's could be the one everyone likes! :)
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Post by NME » Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:40 am

I'm a hypocrite. I know.
It's late and stuff.
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