Introducing a new DV industry standard, by Danielwang!

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Post by trythil » Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:27 am

trythil wrote:
Scintilla wrote:
trythil wrote:
Corran Productions wrote:
Scintilla wrote:..........
x |any number conceivable that is -1<0 , 1>0|
How about {x | -1 < x < 0 or 0 > x > 1}?
Wait, so the second half of that is "0 is greater than x, but x is greater than 1"? Did I read that right?
Not "but", "or" -- so we get the union. {x | -1 < x < 0 } U {x | 0 > x > 1 }.

I should have also specified x is an element of R, otherwise we'd still be fux0red.
Oh shit, wait, I just noticed the error myself. FUX0R.

Fix:
{x | -1 < x < 0 } U {x | 0 < x < 1 }, x elementof R

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Post by koronoru » Thu Dec 18, 2003 12:54 pm

It's a shame nobody has responded to danielwang's technical point, because his point is a good one: Yes, if DVDs came with all the layers of animation marked up separately for automated extraction, that WOULD be insanely cool.

But it's never going to happen for reasons which should be obvious but (since danielwang is here) I'll explain anyway. Just consider: what possible USE could such a video format have? The only people it would be useful to, are people like us - those who slice and dice the footage to create new original works. And that activity, even if it's morally defensible, is both ILLEGAL, and AGAINST THE ANIME DISTRIBUTOR'S WISHES. They want the only way for you to see those characters, to be by buying more DVDs from them. That's why DVDs are encrypted and region-coded with secret algorithms. That's why that kid in Norway got dragged before a criminal court (twice). The makers of DVDs are Not Our Friends; they want to keep the footage locked down as tightly as possible.

So why on Earth would they go to a lot of technical trouble (remember, it would mean changing their entire production process) and invent a new video format, just to make it easier for us to do our thing WHEN THEY CONSIDER US TO BE THE ENEMY?

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Post by DJ_Izumi » Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:00 pm

koronoru wrote:That's why DVDs are encrypted and region-coded with secret algorithms. The makers of DVDs are Not Our Friends; they want to keep the footage locked down as tightly as possible.
Worlds best kept industry secret! :O

I like the makers of DVDs. I'd love to be a maker of DVDs, and I'd put every form of copy protection possable on the disk. :) (Dispite the fact that they can be easily circumvented, they do prevent SOME bootlegging).

The DVDs, their authoring, the content on that is all that someone created, many people worked towards, it's their jobs and their industry. They have the right to protect the investment anyway they can. And I'll say this now, if I was ever putting a TV or Film production onto DVD for home distribution, I really wouldn't give a damn about those making Music videos to my creations, were a very unimportant demographic.
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