Advanced skillz

RichLather · Post by **RichLather** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 2:37 pm

One should not even consider the use of flashy digital effects until they can produce a video with nothing but straight cuts throughout, and have it be met with both popular and peer acclaim.

For even more fun, try doing it linearly without benefit of a computer at all.

kiddingchris · Post by **kiddingchris** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 2:44 pm

yeah, sometimes people go overboard with digital effects, and really messes up the AMV, and also, richlather had a bit of a challenge, make an AMV without any changes in the original clip (at least it think thats what he meant), and i tried to do that with my kingdom hearts video (but i couldn't fit the intro into the entire song (gravity of love by enigma), so i had to add stuff, but it is a neat challenge, i suggest you try it, find the right song+anime, and you have a unique result.

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RichLather · Post by **RichLather** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 2:48 pm

I'm not sure how yo are phrasing it, but what I meant was to edit a video completely with cuts: no dissolves, no fades, no fancy digital effects.

Just. Cuts.

Hitori · Post by **Hitori** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 8:54 pm

I've done that before with my very first amv using downloaded footage.

BogoSort · Post by **BogoSort** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:02 pm

As far as I'm concerned, one should have a vision of what they want for a video before they make it, and then use the editing and digital effects in order to get as close to the vision as possible. What I find works for me(though I'm not a good creator by any means) is that I close my eyes while I''m listening to the song that I'm doing a video to. Then I can visualize the scenes that I want at each point in the song, and how I want to make them work together. If I'm visualizing a scene that's not in a series, then fancy video edits and digital effects are necessary in order to approach my vision. If you're imagining a strobe while listening to a song, then I'm sure one is useful, but you should be able to feel when the strobe needs to be going and when it doesn't.

Most of the videos that wow me upon first glance are the ones where I don't quite notice the effects as being added to the video because the creator could. They just kind of fit in with the video. The best effects are the ones that the audience doesn't notice without a close scrutiny of the video. If you're looking at your effects list, and are wondering where to put such and such effect in your video, that's probably going to be a poor use. I think you should have a look in mind, and look through your effects list to figure out which one most closely matches what you're envisioning.

Then again, these are only my opinions, take them with a grain of salt, cause they could just be cognitive dissonance in action. I don't use many effects in my own videos cause I don't think that they look right, and thus I critisize other peoples' use of effects.

Org Profile · Post by **Vlad G Pohnert** » Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:59 pm

RichLather wrote:One should not even consider the use of flashy digital effects until they can produce a video with nothing but straight cuts throughout, and have it be met with both popular and peer acclaim.

For even more fun, try doing it linearly without benefit of a computer at all.

Hmm... Yes I agree that it's important to be able to edit, but that doesn't mean that you has to become popular to be able to start using digital effects.

It all really depends on how you apply them. I've seen digital effect applied by new creators that work much better than some who are established.

Vlad

Ashton · Post by **Ashton** » Wed Aug 21, 2002 2:40 am

BogoSort wrote:Most of the videos that wow me upon first glance are the ones where I don't quite notice the effects as being added to the video because the creator could. They just kind of fit in with the video. The best effects are the ones that the audience doesn't notice without a close scrutiny of the video. If you're looking at your effects list, and are wondering where to put such and such effect in your video, that's probably going to be a poor use. I think you should have a look in mind, and look through your effects list to figure out which one most closely matches what you're envisioning.

Prime example, I was watching SpPanda's session 02 (because she...) and I was trying to figure out what made this certain part feel so wierd. It was just this subliminal thing about his transitions that was driving me nuts. So I pulled the video up in Vdub and went frame by frame through one of the transitions, and I realized that he used some footage from the anime, and some little digital craftiness to make it look exactly like it would if you were flipping channels on an old television, you know, where there is a brief momment of static and stuff like that. It was awsome, especially after I realized it was there.

OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Wed Aug 21, 2002 5:27 pm

RichLather wrote:One should not even consider the use of flashy digital effects until they can produce a video with nothing but straight cuts throughout, and have it be met with both popular and peer acclaim.

For even more fun, try doing it linearly without benefit of a computer at all.

"To Love, To Love Not..."

The world's most boring timeline in Premiere...

^_^

video track 1 only! ^_^

TaranT · Post by **TaranT** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 1:56 am

OmniStrata wrote: The world's most boring timeline in Premiere...

Then you haven't seen jbone's Dorothy R vid.

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OmniStrata · Post by **OmniStrata** » Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:11 am

Ok...

So it's on video track 1 and uses only 10 cuts to a 5 minute song?

^_^