My AMAZING discovery and how it can help you!

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:39 am

Hey, wanna know something cool? During the telecining process that converts 24 FPS to 29.97, not every fourth frame is duped. About 99.5% of the fourth frames are duped, and 0.5% of the fourth frames are just left alone. This is how they get 29.97 instead of a whole 30 FPS.

Oddly, I made this discovery while working with footage that was originally twenty-FIVE frames per second...

I am never again using Telecide/Decimate, from now on it's Doubleweave/Selectevery. I don't want to get rid of "duplicate" frames that aren't really duplicated and then artifically pump up the framerate to compensate. That suxxors.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:52 am

Oh, and when you convert 25 (rather than 24) FPS to 29.97, you duplicate 99.4% (rather than 99.5%) of all the fifth (rather than fourth) frames.

It's 4 AM, do you know where my brain is?

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:14 am

Of course. Because you know more than everyone who has spent significant ammounts of time working in this area.

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:52 am

the Black Monarch wrote:Hey, wanna know something cool? During the telecining process that converts 24 FPS to 29.97, not every fourth frame is duped. About 99.5% of the fourth frames are duped, and 0.5% of the fourth frames are just left alone. This is how they get 29.97 instead of a whole 30 FPS.

Oddly, I made this discovery while working with footage that was originally twenty-FIVE frames per second...

I am never again using Telecide/Decimate, from now on it's Doubleweave/Selectevery. I don't want to get rid of "duplicate" frames that aren't really duplicated and then artifically pump up the framerate to compensate. That suxxors.

No Monarch, they actually take 23.976fps FILM footage and Telecine it up to 29.97fps. That's how video is made. That's why Telecide and Decimate pwn your ass.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:04 pm

Well, that would work, except that FILM is originally 24 FPS rather than 23.976...

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:38 pm

the Black Monarch wrote:Well, that would work, except that FILM is originally 24 FPS rather than 23.976...

No, FILM is actually 23.976fps.

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:42 pm

Fucking shoot me damn it. Monarch, you're right. Forgive me and my fucking stupidness

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:33 pm

You are forgiven. BTW, "stupidness" is not a word. The word you're looking for is "stupidity".

Anyway, I have an update for you all:

I wrote:MPEG2source("E:\ripped\video\WarPlanets\ep01.d2v")

Assumetff()

doubleweave()

Selectevery(199,1,3,6,8,11,13,15,18,20,23,25,27,30,32,35,37,39,42,44,47,49,51,54,56,59,61,63,66,68,70,73,75,78,80,82,85,87,90,92,94,97,99,102,104,106,109,111,114,116,118,121,123,126,128,130,133,135,138,140,142,145,147,150,152,154,157,159,162,164,166,169,171,174,176,178,181,183,186,188,190,193,195,198)

And then...

VirtualDub wrote:Avisynth open failure:
script error: argument list too long

Fucking shoot me damn it. Nicholas, you're right. Forgive me and my fucking stupidITY.

the Black Monarch · Post by **the Black Monarch** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:35 pm

Hey AD, get your british punk ass over here and make AVIsynth better!

NicholasDWolfwood · Post by **NicholasDWolfwood** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:36 pm

He can't. He doesn't develop it. Only AVISynth developers can make it "better"

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