I guess Norway wasn't as socially advanced as we think...

[Propyro]

2. I don't like government censorship.

not many people do ... i think bill hicks had a few things to day about that.

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And yet people don't seem to be getting my gripe about Norway, for some reason...

meh, sucks to be them ... LMAO ... i just noticed what you did to yoru sig ... nice loop hole ... phade will probably still nail your ass to the wall when he sees it ... or congradulate you.

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[jonmartensen]

2. I don't like government censorship.

not many people do ... i think bill hicks had a few things to day about that.

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And yet people don't seem to be getting my gripe about Norway, for some reason...

Hypocracy is blind to itself? Double standards are all the rage now days? Your gripe is silly, if not petty? People don't care about facts, they care about bias? No one cares?

[)v(ajin Koji]

I met a Norweigian once, he'd learnt english off of Jackass.

It was very funny talking to him

[Kracus]

My point is that everyone points out Europe as being a more "progressive" place, and yet this sort of thing went on for nearly a century in Norway.

If porno is a part of 'progression' then no wonder this world is become more and more shittier.

[Kracus]

Now they just need to lift the ban on kiddie porn and we'll be well on our way.

[)v(ajin Koji]

Now they just need to lift the ban on kiddie porn and we'll be well on our way.

Think of the children!!

[fyrtenheimer]

2. I don't like government censorship.

not many people do ... i think bill hicks had a few things to day about that.

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And yet people don't seem to be getting my gripe about Norway, for some reason...

We get what you're fucken saying. But no progression because of porn? Who in their right mind would base progression off that.

[kthulhu]

You in US have had censorship, so why cross atlantic and laugh to silly Europeans.

The same reason you comment on US affairs, perhaps?

I mean, the law might have been written but in practice nobody took it seriously. You could not sell certain movies (by law) but people still did (and nobody cared) or brought them abroad. Nobody came to your house to confiscate your VHS cassettes.

It's not the actual practice of the law, so much as the principle it was made in, that bothers me.

Hypocracy is blind to itself? Double standards are all the rage now days? Your gripe is silly, if not petty? People don't care about facts, they care about bias? No one cares?

That's probably it.

My point is that everyone points out Europe as being a more "progressive" place, and yet this sort of thing went on for nearly a century in Norway.

If porno is a part of 'progression' then no wonder this world is become more and more shittier.

"shitty", not "shittier", is probably the word you want.

While the availability of porn isn't a progressive act, neither is a government ban of offensive material.

We get what you're fucken saying. But no progression because of porn? Who in their right mind would base progression off that.

Says the girl who had a penis-enhanced cactuar in her sig, and has "SEX" in her avatar.

I never said the availability of porn was a progressive thing. I've never even said that Norway was progressive because of this.

Ah fuck, I give up. This thread sucks.

[Simpi]

The same reason you comment on US affairs, perhaps? .

Touche, I grant you that.

It's not the actual practice of the law, so much as the principle it was made in, that bothers me.

Ok, let's stay in the movies. Let's think back about Hayes code which was in effect at US. This did not sensor complete products, but interfered before the movie was even made: http://vpue-webserver.stanford.edu/film ... sCode.html

These days (actually always) Hollywood films are very concerned about 'family values'. Nuclear family is sacred and nothing should threathen it without punishment and this attitude also reflects from the audience.

One of the examples is 'Fatal Attraction*' (1987) by Adrian Lyne. Original ending had Alex (Glenn Close) committing suicide while dressed in white, and Dan (Michael Douglas), being arrested for her murder. Dan's wife, while looking for the phone number of her husband's lawyer, finds a cassette tape recorded by Alex in which she states her intention to commit suicide. The wife runs out of the house with the tape (presumably going to the police) and the film ends with a flashback of Alex slashing her throat in the bathroom while listening to "Madama Butterfly".

Test audience hated this, so they changed the ending where Alex gets popped off.

Thus, even though there was the idea that Dan might be released, the nuclear family had been destabilised. The intruder (Alex) has to pay the price for this sin.

I could cite several other mainstream movies where people who don't fit into typical hollywood stereotype (Patriarcal middle class family) have to pay the price for their mistake. I urge you to observe recent hit films and find the segments where aforementioned stereotype is glorified.

There are movies where this does not apply, but I don't think you can deny that movie industry would not revolve around that 'ideal'.

I hope this demonstrated that film industry has quite an amount self-censorship and movie makers aren't just free to put anything they want to silver screen.

* Not to mention all movies inspired by it.

[Flint the Dwarf]

Poor kthulhu.