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Post by Timelessblurr » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:20 pm

I knew about the buggen deffecite they had. But what you forgot about was the fact that Texas did not go in debt. They cut spending to keep it from happening and they pulled money out of hte Rainday fund to keep it from happening (basicly it is money the set set aside to prepare for this). I have tendice to keep trake of what going on in the Texas goverment. That is why I know more than average on about what currently going on with the speical sessions. What you dont know is Unlike most states the Texas State Consition does not allow Texas to ever go in to debt. They have to cut spending. I can tell you dont know much about how Texas goverment works.....

So I did know about the 10billion deffece and that was for the following bugget which ment that they had to cut 10 billon out of it. For the 1.8 they cut some end of hte year spending, and Rain day funded it. I can also tell you where the bugget cuts hurt. The state education system had to take massive cutss since that is where most of the state bugget goes. Like everiver where else in the nation all pubic collages are in money trouble right now. I know more about what they did eductation nation wide and state wide because my mom is a teacher so it is a personal insterted in mind.

Mind you the Texas Consetion is royal messed up but not leting the state go in debt or operoporat in debt is something I like about it because the State will not go bankrupt like Califorina. Californai got killed by power because they wanted cheap power but they dont want ot build power planets in there state so they got put at the mercy of the market and at that time Each power compiany first consernce was there state and the extra the sold off. Basicly I have learn that Californai is give me give me give me but they dont like to pay for it. That is why they bankrupt. It is why they had power problems. If texas ever has those roleing black out you can be for sure that a lot of other states will be having them 2. (Californa included since Californa buys a lot of power from Texas)
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:23 pm

Timelessblurr wrote: -Our school system is not as over crowed (mess up yes but not over croweded
They've split my school FOUR TIMES becaus it's over populated, don't give me that bull shit.

I now reside at a "senior High" with only two grades in it.

Some one else has already pointed out a 10 billion dollar debt.

I don't care for this crappy texas beach, nor do I care for the swampy humid areas.

the horrible weather combined with a complete lack of urbanization just does not appeal to me.

and just because you have something doesn't mean you should brag about it. California has really fair sized chunks of different terrain, and they're all really nice at what ever they may be. If you want to live on a beach in texas, you don't have a lot of choices, the same goes for all the other non desert terrains that were named. Who cares that it isn't desert, it's still crappy land.

California has the central valley, it's mountains, the bay area of san francisco, it's tropical regions, it's nice so cal beaches, it has desert.

All thes epices of land are nice, like our desert, it's nto some shitty sliver, and the weather is decent there (I'm sure you've all heared of Palm Springs, that's in the desert). My family has a cabin in the mountains, it gets cold ofcourse, but not too cold, it snows every now and then, during the sumemr the weather doens't get too hot but warms up mroe than enough that you cna go swimming in the lake and such. You drive a half an hour up the mountain, and you have snowbairding resorts during the winter.

I wouldn't be bragging about all these different types of terrain, if they wern't all so nice. Just because texas isn't all desert doens't eman you should brag about what's not. texas' beach literally disgusts me.


Anyways, as you guys can tell, I'm not good withg athering my thoughts, all i do is ramble. i'm done tlaking about this. you guys got my message. Quality of land in cali is better than in Texas, and Texas isn't as urbanized.
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Post by Timelessblurr » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:33 pm

My reason I dont want to live in california

It schools suck ass and they have massive over crowding (I done a nice paper on it 2 years ago). There meation to solve it Let make year round school with the student off 3 diffent cycles there buy increasing the school capicting by 33%.
Ever school in the nation is feeling the presure of over crowding. They splirt you school to keep it useful which basicly means htey have antoehr school that houses the other 2 grades it works. Most of the time they just build a 9th grade anix which is extramly good idea.

-The govermetn there does not work.

-The cost of living is astronomly high there. For 200K you can get a small house there. for 200K in texas you can get a 3000 Sq foot house.

-Califinia is a want want want state and htey are not willing to pay for any of it. Beside I think the recall shows hwo messed up the state is. It takes a lot to make the public hate ther governor enough to want him out of office
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Post by Jace Tsunami » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:35 pm

Timelessblurr wrote:My reason I dont want to live in california

It schools suck ass and they have massive over crowding (I done a nice paper on it 2 years ago). There meation to solve it Let make year round school with the student off 3 diffent cycles there buy increasing the school capicting by 33%.
Ever school in the nation is feeling the presure of over crowding. They splirt you school to keep it useful which basicly means htey have antoehr school that houses the other 2 grades it works. Most of the time they just build a 9th grade anix which is extramly good idea.

-The govermetn there does not work.

-The cost of living is astronomly high there. For 200K you can get a small house there. for 200K in texas you can get a 3000 Sq foot house.

-Califinia is a want want want state and htey are not willing to pay for any of it. Beside I think the recall shows hwo messed up the state is. It takes a lot to make the public hate ther governor enough to want him out of office
What?

Obviously your school wasn't so hot, because I didn't unnerstand barley one fucking word you said.

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Post by Timelessblurr » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:36 pm

also you most be close to one of the beachs above corpuses. The reason there are look so dirty is because of the Mississippi river. The ocean currets brings all the silt aroudn alone the cost. I personly like humitty and I am really missing it right now here at Texas Tech. The air is to dry. Some people hate it but I personly like it. I can breath in it and I am not constatinly sneezing in it
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Post by MistyCaldwell » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:40 pm

Timelessblurr wrote:I knew about the buggen deffecite they had.
funny that you communicate that by saying they never had a deficit :P
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Post by jonmartensen » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:52 pm

MistyCaldwell wrote:I only addressed three issues because I was being whined at to get off the internet quickly...thus why there was no standard wisecrack at the end...


I'll get to that later...
...ahem..."compensation"...And even then, you're not first :p

I think the main thing is, there are many enjoyable and unique things to do anywhere that you may be (even boring places like Ohio :p). But to partake of them, you have to be in the right mindset. It doesn't matter if you're in paradise, if you go in thinking everything there sucks/will suck, then it will. Not because of the place, but more so due to yourself.

The only objective reasons why a place may be "Better" to stay than another are things like crime rate, salary vs purchasing power, Natural Disasters, diesease, poverty, and other stats of that sort.

I enjoy visiting the Texas State Parks, it's ecologically diverse here and there are many unique bioderms. We have lowlands, highlands, mountains, hill country, coastal plains, central plains, and coastal wetlands. Beaches offer alot of activities beyond just surfing, and many of those other activities can be done on the Texas beaches (especially in southern Texas). It's nice living in a state where you have some of the largest cities in the US, but can still get completely away from civilization. And I think a good point about the size of Texas is that it makes it hard to say you dislike the weather, you have a very wide variety of climates to choose from.

But lets face it, people see what they want. You could have two places that are exactly the same and people would still argue over which is better. It's personal pride and personal prejudice.

My prejudice is for nature, being able to get away from it all, fresh air and trecking around in the outdoors for several days, a low stress, low pollution environment. Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Washington, and Oregon are my top 5 choices of residence due to my preferences. On the other hand, some people prefer the busy city, with high levels of activity, many venues of entertainment, lots of man made diversity, and quick access for a day trip, or half day trip, to get away from it all and then get right back to the city.
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Post by MistyCaldwell » Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:01 pm

I meant debt not deficit.....I was looking at your spelling of deficit and it must have burrowed deep into my psyche.


Anyway, for those of you who may not know here is a run down of Texas' proposed cuts http://www.cse.org/informed/issues_temp ... p/1464.htm

Deficit is when you exceed your income. Debt is something you owe to someone. A state or federal government budget that borrows from itself in a way goes in debt to itself, therefore it must cut spending for later to pay for what it used now. 'Itself' being the income it gets, that comes from tax payers of that state or federal government. So yes, it is borrowed money so debt. Texas just finds a way to pay it back by the end of the year so it doesn't have to shut government down in the meantime.


Texas does not yet have an income tax, it relies heavily on property taxes. Like Montana, in a state of that size with ranches and land owned in large quantities people who own land pay a great majority of the taxes. But with deficit woes like they are having, the personal income tax gets brought up a lot...and again next spring.

Still when you are considering state budgets, I don't really know of any state doing well right now.
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Post by Timelessblurr » Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:07 pm

Texas will never get a state income tax. I just dont see that admendment getting pass. It really mostly on sells tax for it money. Proterty tax goes mostly the the local schools. And nation wide property tax is what mainly pays for school. And you are right every state is in money trouble right now. Just some a lot more than others.
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Post by MistyCaldwell » Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:08 pm

umm...


looking up there now, it seems this is turning into a "Texas is better...no it's not" type of thing. When I started nit picking it was because of the audacious things Timelessblur said...some being wrong, the others being factless opinions, and a couple nonsense things like bigger state. I didn't mean for it to be a hate Texas or Timelessblur fest so I am going to stop trying to prove them to be wrong. :wink:


...and I am not even going to insert a sarcastic remark about how I didn't even need to debase an arguement so full of opinion. :wink:
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