Anamorphic encoding test

Tab. · Post by **Tab.** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:12 am

look at my sig biotch

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:42 am

Sure, it would definitely increase the amount of people using a certain container....

but it would also *deacrease* the amount of people watching the video and when , to be honest, there's no large gain in using a different container it's just not worth it, imo. Videos are released to be watched not be be some promotional tool for a development in software.

If I was still a fansubber I'd be using new containers a lot but I just don't think it's any use having them for amvs. I use these things a lot for my personal use but there is no benefit for my video to use a new container. Benefit for the promotion of that container, yes... benefit for distributing my video... no.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:30 am

http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... highlight=

my point exactly

NME · Post by **NME** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 9:49 am

it's visions of moulton all over again

'cupcake u made such a tweaked out divx file, even encspot can't tell what it is ROFL'

post-it works in tv too.

I LOVE LYING IT MAKES ME FEEL SPECIAL.

ChristianHJW · Post by **ChristianHJW** » Thu Aug 07, 2003 4:48 pm

SS5_Majin_Bebi wrote:But yeh, what about MPEG-2? DVD uses the MPEG-2 standard, and I must say I've never ever seen an AVI that can beat a DVD video stream

MPEG2 looks great ! It needs a hell of a bitrate for this, but it looks gorgeous, no doubt here.

Of course you cant find an AVI that will look comparable, its impossible as AVI doesnt support anamorphic pixel AR's, so you loose 33% vertical resolution.

Go here http://www.wiesneronline.net/archive/St ... icXviD.mkv
( sorry for the slow server, its my private box @home with DSL ) and make sure to watch it with TCMP RC4 ( http://corecoded.com with latest matroska CDL for the AR correction ).

AS it has AAC sound, you need CoreAAC ( coming with old matroska playback pack ), unless you dont need sound. Newer build are on rarewares ....

For video you need either ffdshow or xvid decoder ( this is NOT a matroska native MPEG4 ISO file yet .... )

Tell me what you think .... not looking comparable to DVD ?

ErMaC · Post by **ErMaC** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 8:18 pm

I think the point I was trying to make in my post has been better articulated by AbsoluteDestiny and others since then, so hopefully you understand my position.

People know what DivX is. Especially the average anime fan these days - they're living off all these digisubs which generally are played back with either DivX or some form of XviD. I made all my encodes to be DivX5 compatible because I figure that's what most people will already have.

Yes, I realize that MPEG1 is more universal, however at this point I think I have more viewers who would rather download a higher quailty, smaller size file because they're on slow connections as opposed to people who have computers which can't run DivX files properly. I could play my encodes on my P2 366 laptop (although Closer to God 2 was pretty hard on it), so obviously the CPU barrier of entry is very low.

But Matroska is totally different - it's a container format. And for what we're doing, it's more than we need. If I make a person install DivX, that's 1 thing they have to install. But if I put XviD in a Matroska file, now they have to install the directshow splitters PLUS the codec. I already don't like forcing people to install DivX5, I don't want to add another thing on top of it.

Back when I was first encoding, I had MPEG1 and DivX3.11 versions of all my videos on my site. They both got downloaded about equally, but the MPEG-1 downloads I found from asking people were mostly because people thought the MPEG-1 looked better, not because it was more compatible.

VicBond is 100% correct in saying that MPEG1 is the most compatible format. But the added quality and size reduction I get from XviD is worth the extra effort I make my viewers go though.

Encoding my videos in Matroska does not provide me any benefit which would persuade me to force my viewers to install it. It's great for making DVD backups or digisubs or whatever, but for AMVs, it's just not necessary.

So I wish you luck with your container format, I honestly do hope it gains a whole lot of support and becomes completely ubiquitous. THEN I will use it happily. But until then it's not in my or my viewer's best interests to switch.

NME · Post by **NME** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:04 pm

Stop being sassy.

I say we all just switch to .wmv, everyone can use that and it all works, CLICK CLACK AUDIO COMPRESSION.

trythil · Post by **trythil** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:42 pm

ChristianHJW wrote: Go here http://www.wiesneronline.net/archive/St ... icXviD.mkv
...
Tell me what you think .... not looking comparable to DVD ?

It looks and sounds great. I'm working with anamorphic source on my current project, and will definitely give Matroska a try...screw the viewers, I don't have an audience anyway

Zarxrax · Post by **Zarxrax** » Sat Aug 09, 2003 12:03 am

I too will try matroska one day. I don't care what my viewers have to download either. If they don't care enough to spend 5 minutes downloading something, then do I really care if they watch my video?

I'll probably wait a while before I shift over from avi though. Once I see a couple fansubs released in the format, thats when I'll probably make my move...