Different Stages of an anime fan.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Thu Mar 20, 2003 2:22 pm

Pierrot Le Fou wrote:18. Posted in this thread. ;D

Who knows where it will go from here....

to your DOOM! MWAHAHAH! Err...sorry...

Bluemantis · Post by **Bluemantis** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 12:54 am

dwchang wrote:
Yes, you are referring to Osaka-ben. It is a type of dialect around the Osaka-region of Japan. I believe Sanouske from Rurouni Kenshin also speaks this way. If you notice he rolls a lot of his words.

Did not notice, I'll have to go back and watch it again to listen for it, maybe I can start reconizing the acsent in other animes as well.

With a dub (not just anime), you don't have the director/creator's influence in the slightest. What you get is a US (or other countries) distributor casting the roles, doing the voice direction, etc. The original production crew has nothing to do with this. Like I said earlier, I'd rather be only one step off (that being subtitles instead of raw) from the original instead of a few more.

This is not exactly true in all cases. Take Oh! My Godess for example, since O could have been traslated as AH or Oh, went as far as to asked the creator how he wanted it written. He decided to use the two different translations to seperate the TV from the OAV. In fact if you pay attention to some of the editors notes that come with some dvds(either written on to the dvds or a paper in the case), they work closer to the creators and directors than we my think. But I can't prove it for all cases because they all don't include editors notes.

A bit off-topic, but I'd like to compliment you on your ability to well...not flame and instead discussin a calm and logical fashion. I've seen this sort of thread a lot of times in the ORG and almost all of them end in some sort of retarded flames and baseless retorts (or lack thereof) like "Oh yeah! Well screw you!"

In an argument/discussion, one should take in points logically and make conclusions and not go off of emotions and whatnot. Most people, regardless of how sound the argument is, will just get frustrated and resort to...."retardedness." I applaud the fact you haven't gone screaming off .

I wanted to mention the same thing to you when you first responed to my post. I knew I was walking on dangerous ground when I was writing it, thank you for showing maturity and intelligence.

I also notice that the community itself have been doing better about this to, even though their are many jerks out their.

Now when I see your name I pay attention to what you have to say. I might not agree to everything you say, but at less I will give it some consideration without thinking that you are running mouth off with blind ignorence.

This is the last time I will post this off topic stuff on this forum.

skanks · Post by **skanks** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 3:05 am

Can guy be an otaku?
I have a friend whom obsessed over Shinji Ikari.
(He's the one who thought we would be ressurected as an animated character)
He's a little disturbed but i found it really funny one day when i convinced him that Ikari was a fudgepacker.
Might not been a good idea, my friend came out the closet a few months later and is now practicing homersexuality.

dwchang · Post by **dwchang** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:34 am

Bluemantis wrote:This is not exactly true in all cases. Take Oh! My Godess for example, since O could have been traslated as AH or Oh, went as far as to asked the creator how he wanted it written. He decided to use the two different translations to seperate the TV from the OAV. In fact if you pay attention to some of the editors notes that come with some dvds(either written on to the dvds or a paper in the case), they work closer to the creators and directors than we my think. But I can't prove it for all cases because they all don't include editors notes.

Well, I'm not sure of this one, but it is only the change of a word as opposed to him casting the entire english cast. You bring up a point about translation, but in terms of the dubbing point, I still stand by the fact that the creators have no creative input on how the voices are done or casted in dubs. I put a lot more faith in the original language track (whatever it may be) because I know that the director/creator casted people he thought conveyed the correct voices and inflections over trusting some random person in a distributor choosing.

Basically, I'd rather exclude the middle-man who could potentially change things either in the voices or translation (as mentioned in the changing scripts to fit mouth movements point).

bluemantis wrote:I wanted to mention the same thing to you when you first responed to my post. I knew I was walking on dangerous ground when I was writing it, thank you for showing maturity and intelligence.

I also notice that the community itself have been doing better about this to, even though their are many jerks out their.

Now when I see your name I pay attention to what you have to say. I might not agree to everything you say, but at less I will give it some consideration without thinking that you are running mouth off with blind ignorence.

Yes, I tend to notice the more logical and mature posts are, people tend to listen more. Not to say that they necessarily switch their points of view, but they at least listen and a thoughtful discussion can ensue (the point of this forum).

I've noticed when people blindly put ignorant and flaming statements up, people generally don't even respond to it (which is better than it used to be). [/quote]

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:38 am

skanks wrote:Might not been a good idea, my friend came out the closet a few months later and is now practicing homersexuality.

Meh. if he wants to be homersexual... its his choice.

Farmboybob · Post by **Farmboybob** » Fri Mar 21, 2003 11:41 am

I'm about level 5.5, almost to 6 but not quite yet. Maybe in a month or 2.

skanks · Post by **skanks** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 1:07 am

Meh. if he wants to be homersexual... its his choice.

The homersexuality thing doesn't bother me, its the fact that he decided hew as gay after i convinced him Ikari was gay..
Almost as if it was the reason.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:34 am

I think you are starting to go past anime fan and into Xenophiliac. It is possible for someone to watch and enjoy alot of anime while still liking english dubs and not start listining to japanese music.

El Banana · Post by **El Banana** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 2:45 am

Hm, I can't be too sure with your answer skanks...

Homersexual =/= homosexual
Right?

skanks · Post by **skanks** » Sat Mar 22, 2003 7:06 am

yer, its hard to say..
the guy is weird,
thats all