The Attitudes Of AMV Creators, Take 2

OtakuOutpost · Post by **OtakuOutpost** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:51 pm

SpPANDA wrote: dont act stupid. you yourself knows that there's another thread that brang up the issue of a bad community.

or are you feeding off your own ignorance?

Yo, being confrontational isn't going to get results...

Hey Mod - I brought the issue up. Take a look at the thread:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=11757

What he posted has direct relevance to that one. If you are going to kill this thread, then you must be inclined to kill that one too. If you aren't going to kill my thread, then I'm not sure it's fair to cabash this one.

--Tony

SpPANDA · Post by **SpPANDA** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:51 pm

so had i made a point in the old one, it would have stayed. instead, now it's locked.

so it's lose lose.

am i right?

its pointless now. you're telling me what i can do, but you've already turned off that option from me.

[MOD: If you want to continue the debate in the old thread then that's ok. The thread is unlocked for you to do that. Just dont do bump posts with no explanation for them otherwise threads get locked.]

SpPANDA · Post by **SpPANDA** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:53 pm

OtakuOutpost wrote:
SpPANDA wrote: dont act stupid. you yourself knows that there's another thread that brang up the issue of a bad community.

or are you feeding off your own ignorance?
Yo, being confrontational isn't going to get results...

Hey Mod - I brought the issue up. Take a look at the thread:
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/phpBB/v ... hp?t=11757

What he posted has direct relevance to that one. If you are going to kill this thread, then you must be inclined to kill that one too. If you aren't going to kill my thread, then I'm not sure it's fair to cabash this one.

--Tony

why, thank you tony.

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:53 pm

isn't it wonderful, not only do you need to worry aobut the flamings of felllow forum mebmers, but an inviso-mod rampaging through editing your posts.

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:56 pm

SpPANDA wrote:so had i made a point in the old one, it would have stayed. instead, now it's locked.

so it's lose lose.

am i right?

its pointless now. you're telling me what i can do, but you've already turned off that option from me.

You know, with all this time you have been arguing with the mods you could have just started talking about what this topic was made about within this thread. All you had to do was say... "Remember that post I made about AMV Creator Attitudes blah, blah, blah...".

RadicalEd0 · Post by **RadicalEd0** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 6:59 pm

nobody wants my debate

:O

mexicanjunior · Post by **mexicanjunior** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:00 pm

RadicalEd0 wrote:nobody wants my debate
:O

I replied to it.

SpPANDA · Post by **SpPANDA** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:02 pm

done and done MJ

tab! i'll redo the argument thread...

CaTaClYsM · Post by **CaTaClYsM** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:02 pm

SpPanda wrote:The attitudes of an AMV creator are fickle...

I haven't been making AMVs too long, but within the time i've been making them and competing in competitioni've noticed the attitudes that most AMV creators carry. It's hard to respect that there have been so many good videos created by countless artests, but when you look at the person who created it you see nothing but an egotistical jack ass.

Sure everyone (most everyone) on this forum creates music videos. I can see that. What I don't get are the number of creators (at this point I'll start reffering to the creators as 'editors', or 'artists' as well) who believe that creating the video puts them at a much higher level than the viewer.

There's no AMV Heirarchy people. being an AMV Artist doesn't allow you to walk around thinking you're tough shit. Sure being the Editor of such an AMV should give you a feeling of accomplishment over the crowd, but in no way does it make you better than the audience, the judges, or even your fellow Editors. It's flat out DISRESPECTFUL to try to claim who's better than who.

everyone... shines in their own field. you shouldn't pop someone's bubble just because you think you have the right to disown the AMV Artists because you won an award over them. Awards are nothing but popularity contests. I learned that. And now I know.

I've seen and heard stories of AMV Creators bitch and whine to get their way at conventions because they think they're special. but you know what? you shouldn't be getting any special priveleges. I don't care who you are.

Another example might include the 'newbie'. a newbie joins this forum to get help. to meet people. and when they ask "Who do you make an AMV?" they're not trying to be annoying. they ask out of curiousity. and to get a deeper understanding of how the creation of such a thing begins. how does this community treat that 'newbie'? you all flame them. everyone. you all flame them. and make them feel insignificant. you belittle them to the point where you make them believe the AMV community as a whole are just assholes. It's happend to me once or twice too. I ask a simple question and everyone blows up at me. "Where's Kevin Cawldwell?" i asked. and i wont even list the names of the people who flamed me. I was hurt. my community is too egotistical.

I've also noticed the changes in attitudes among award winners at conventions. I've seen 'nobodys' win awards and rub it in people's faces. the awards are for fun, i've always thought. If I won an award i'd be proud. I'd be confused why I won, but i'd be proud when i got home. I'd mention it along with the video's info, but i'd never stick it in someone's face.

My videos suck.

i've talked to people. people who tell me how much of a ass THIS person is.. or how much an ass THAT person is. and i argree. i hate to say it, but i agree.

TommyRude for example... FOR EXAMPLE!
he's not the best AMV editor out there. he may not have any awards under his belt, but... when he says he wants to make a DDR project... who are we to tell him to go to hell? to tell him to kiss our asses because the rights to the idea are ours? how easy you all forget that teh anime we're using isn't ours. the music... isn't our own. we have no rights to anything. and if anything.. im sure we can get in trouble for doing what we're doing. its utter nonsense. And so what is Tommy is an ass alot of the times? he's also a good guy too. but you dont knwo this because you're all too caught up with your heads in the clouds.

Ermac is another example. EXAMPLE!
people hate him. why? hell if i know... or care for that matter. he thinks he's up on the "heirarchy" along with many others... maybe his ego irritates others. maybe others are jealous? but jealous of what? the number of awards he has? awards aren't anything to lable anybody with.

who has the right to decide who's Elite? what is elite? why are these people elite? how do you become elite? Elite members... have the worst attitudes of them all. They act as though their shit doesn't stink. I'd like to see them prove me wrong.

This is embarrassing... the community we're creating... this isn't how it should be. I've always been kind enough to help people with questions they need help on. i've always been kind enough to critique their videos too. it's the least i can do. you should all consider helping out... you can't make amvs your whole lives...

it's only a hobby.

it's not a profession.

just to get the ball rolling in the new thread.

AbsoluteDestiny · Post by **AbsoluteDestiny** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:04 pm

Why bother - a mod has already said that the old thread has been unlocked for further debate.

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